101 East: BERSIH rally and Democracy... Malaysian-style.
The 101 East segment on BERSIH Rally... Several Malaysians have taken the trouble to YouTube the programme for those who don't have access to Astro Channel 513, to share the information to enable you make information decision about Malaysia.
However, all the YouTube were badly produced -- bad audio and bad visuals -- while this set -- Part I and Part II -- with good captures was superimposed with some distracting alien materials that reduced the authenticity of the original footages.
View this set -- Part I and Part II -- while we wait for Al-Jazeera to YouTube its own version.
UPDATE: Al-Jazeera has Youtubed it: Part 1 & Part 2.
Teymoor's three guest were people, one way or another, who spoke from the perspective of law: Lawyer Malik Imtiaz Sarwar, law minister Nazri Aziz, and the Son-in-Law.
One of the three said the system needs no institutional change, just the process that needs improvement. I don't know where this guy studied management, but to many of us, process is an integral part of the system. A good system can't have bad process, and Harry Lee could tell you this.
Sieve the rhetorics, but get the message if this country is in save hands -- Democracy, Malaysian style.
P/S I gave a perspective on ZDNet Asia... pants down.
Comments
Nazri Nazri Nazri….He was being cornered and fell into the traps right away. KJ tried to back tracking Nazri’s ignorance and tried to articulate but failed miserably.
Now, you can see the quality of our leaders on TV!!!! Bunch of dumbass. Now, you know why there is not live debates from our parliament……..Zam at least smart enough to say no and decided not to make further fool of himself.
Kudos to the human right lawyer…Stunning, cool and calm. These are the people we need to represent us and our country!!
Posted by: jararaca
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November 16, 2007 10:10 AM
In short, two monkeys said: "You elected us! Why complain for the current affair of the country? There is nothing wrong with the current system, there is NOTHING to change!".
Our lawyer: "The people has voted BN due to lack of information. Proof is the media didn't publish voice of Opposition. The people could not find any other option to tell the Government about their concern."
If you have watch it, good for you. If you haven't, quickly go listen! See for yourself who is defending "us"!
Posted by: patriotic1994
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November 16, 2007 01:40 PM
You can see the methods used - first, may-13 threat; second- ignore court order, then give reason later; third- change minutes of meeting; fourth - don't issue notice of meeting to the public so they don't attend to ask questions; fifth - go after the whistleblower rather than the subject being suspected; sixth - erase all incriminating records; seventh - don't turn up for commission meeting; eighth - make the ns casualty into a percentage; nineth - use majority as a shield; tenth - label the event as opposition-based; eleventh - muzzle the media but say the opposite; twelveth - lie about the number using an underling; thirteenth - lie about the treatment; fourteenth - use cybertroopers to incite in blogs and paid kakis to demo against rallies or create mischief in them; fifteenth - deflect attention with other events: racist, stupid, leaking, terowong, etc; sixteenth - blame the journalist for misquoting; seventeenth - label the foreign media as anti before the interview; eighteenth - call all comments not supportive of the party's line as traitorous, anti-national, racial, disharmonious etc.; nineteenth - change the base when calculating policy matters; twentieth - use whatever laws to strangle any comments contrary to their interest, including the withholding of permits in order to make the event illegal; twenty-first: go through the motions but never close the circuit on what happens to the culprits apprehended and charged; twenty-second - keep all focus away from the highest involved; twenty-third - appear on media as smiling and in control.
Only thing they haven't thrown in are the partridge and the pear tree.
KJ alluded to some opposition members being present at the rally as showing it is an opposition thing and not a civil society event; he asked why those members are taking part when they were also elected by the same 'system'.
The point is not who was present or not present. It is all about asking for transparency on the integrity of the election process. If the opposition members are present who were elected under the system that is being suspect of being full of holes, it would be because they think their parties could have gotten a bigger margin in each state the last time election was held, and if the holes are not mended now, the next election will see a repeat of those injustices.
The last one checked, election is meant to be honest and just display of the rakyats' choice of who to govern them. If the rakyat do not know whether the process is faulty, how can they know whether the final results will be fair?
The more they try to hamper and dampen the rakyats' will for a review and revision of the election process, the more everyone will think this govt has something to hide in order to provide itself. Which means it didn't win honestly the last time. Which means it has no intention of winning honestly the next.
It may still win but people want to know exactly by what margin. A bigger margin of opposition will mean a smaller one for this govt. It wants to stop that from happenning, even if doing so means cutting off all calls for rightful changes.
One would think if someone has been honest, he would be the last to resist calls for honest transparency.
What's there to be afraid of, or to hide if there's been no wrong done?
Doesn't matter who's calling for that. So why label straightaway as opposition and then spin around?
And if it's opposition, shouldn't they be given a platform to say their piece; if not, how different then from a junta?
Lastly, we must be in a sad state to think just because a kid can speak, there's something admirable. Caveat emptor; stomachache comin'.
Once ago a corporal of the austrian army also spoke.
Posted by: Neil
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November 16, 2007 05:58 PM
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/11/12/opinion/edbowring.php
Bowring: Malaysia's malaise
By Philip Bowring
Monday, November 12, 2007
HONG KONG: Malaysia is in a political cul-de-sac, resulting in an erosion of national institutions and the entrenchment of corruption. Recent events show that awareness of these problems is growing, but Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi is politically too feeble to implement his good intentions, increasing the difficulty of reconciling the interests of the Malay/Muslim majority with the non-Muslim Chinese, Indian and indigenous groups that make up 45 percent of the population.
Public disquiet and Abdullah's own weakness were on display in Kuala Lumpur on Saturday when some 40,000 people, headed by the leaders of the three opposition parties and including former Deputy Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim and representatives of a wide range of NGOs, defied a government ban to march to the palace of the king, the titular head of state, to petition for clean and fair elections.
This peaceful multiethnic event followed an equally unprecedented speech two weeks earlier by Sultan Azlan Shah, a respected former chief law officer who is also one of the nation's nine hereditary rulers.
Azlan referred to a loss of confidence in the judiciary as a result of questionable appointments and judgments perceived to be driven by politics and money. He noted that its once high reputation had sunk dramatically, quoting a recent World Bank survey. Azlan is believed to be behind a revolt by the sultans against approving - normally a rubber stamp process - the appointment as chief justice of a legal adviser to the governing party with little experience on the bench.
Among current cases that have raised questions about the legal system is the conduct of the trial of Razak Baginda, a close associate of Defense Minister Najib Abdul Razak, and two of Najib's bodyguards for the murder of Baginda's former mistress. Baginda was closely involved in arms deals with France.
The publicity given to the Azlan speech and the Baginda trial point to the greater openness of Malaysia under Abdullah compared with his authoritarian predecessor, Mahathir Mohamad. But though Mahathir was much-criticized for politicizing the judiciary and institutionalizing money politics, he was able to get things done. Abdullah, on the other hand, is seen to have largely - though not entirely - failed to deliver on his promises of cleaner government.
The fault lies less with his personality than with the structure of politics. Abdullah argues that the ballot box and Parliament are the places for political action, not street demonstrations. However, neither is likely to deliver change while race-based politics ensures continuation of the 50-year rule by the United Malays National Organization, which feeds off the economic privileges that the Malays accord themselves.
To keep the loyalty of Malay voters UMNO has both to outflank the Parti Islam and to divert attention from the enrichment of a small Malay elite at the expense of the Malays. Parti Islam is prone to stomach-churning speeches about Malay dominance and hypocritical displays of Islamic fervor that offend Malaysia's plural reality and its secular Constitution.
Nothing can change as long as most non-Malays continue to grudgingly support UMNO rule for fear that the Parti Islam alternative would be worse, or while the non-Malay capitalist class remains wealthy enough to pay tribute to a Malay elite. In its own behavior this elite is liberal and internationalist, but for political purposes encourages the lower-income Malays to think in communal ways.
Judging by their attendance at the rally on Saturday, lower-income Malays may be becoming disillusioned with policies that mostly benefit the elite. But UMNO's grip is strong.
Abdullah might in principle want to reform UMNO, bring in more of the Malay professional middle classes who rely on their own abilities rather than the patronage system, and give more senior government jobs to non-Malays. But he is proving to be a prisoner of the party, its money politics, its dynastic tendencies and its desire to occupy the higher reaches of the bureaucracy, the judiciary and the many quasi-government businesses.
Meanwhile, for all their ability to join together in a demonstration against the government, the two largest opposition parties - Parti Islam and the mainly Chinese Democratic Action Party - are at either end of the race/religion spectrum. The multiracial middle ground now occupied by Anwar's party has thus far had limited appeal.
None of this may seems to matter too much when the economy is expanding, thanks to record prices for oil, palm oil and other exports. But income inequality is bad and getting worse. Malaysia's political stability may be threatened the next time there is a recession, and there is reason to worry about Malaysia's ability to become a developed country when its institutions are corrupted by a stagnant, race-based political system that may have outlived its time.
Posted by: CI
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November 16, 2007 07:39 PM
Jeff...
Al-Jazeera's version of the YouTube videos are up:
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJXOVrziDlY
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpGBTBkBcPc
Posted by: auyongtc
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November 16, 2007 08:47 PM
Astro Al-Jazerra 513 used to be free, now u have to subscribe to it. Maybe the government way to limit the bad news to the Malaysian people
Posted by: antulaut
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November 17, 2007 12:01 AM
hi jeff.. here some news about unit amal...
they gave a very good job on the Bersih Day .. and 10 of them was arrested and need to report again at Dang Wangi police station next month. All of these 10 unit Amal members are from outside Klang Valley (and are not as rich as those UMNO members) and thus, Unit Amal is conducting a donations to help these 10 to cover their cost to come to KL. further info, please go to this link...
10 Unit Amal ditahan 10 Nov; bantulah meringankan beban
http://www.tranungkite.net/v6/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4576&mode=&order=0&thold=0
Posted by: anak_perelih
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November 17, 2007 09:42 AM