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Tony Benn: Keeping people hopeless and pessimistic - see I think there are two ways in which people are controlled - first of all frighten people and secondly demoralize them.

Tony Benn: An educated, healthy and confident nation is harder to govern.

Are their voices heard? Jeff, I bet the answer is resounding NO because none of the mainstream newspapers have reported the peaceful gathering by our Indian-Malaysian brethren at Putrajaya.

Do you think our Samy Vellu and Kayves will ever bother and care about the plight of their Indian brethren?

What about our PM and DPM? One is in oversea again(Brunei), the other is on leave for vacation, so Bolehland is on Auto-Pilot again!

Well, tell me if their voices will ever be heard?

"It is said that despite Indian Malaysians making up about 8% of the country’s population"

I'm sure it's more than 8%, no?

One thing that discredits their requests and resolutions is the absence of the insistence that MIC or any other political party not hold out as being the political representatives of the Indian community. Uthayakumar and co should realise one thing. Only in Malaysia is the Indian diaspora in such a state of neglect and suffering. Every where else that Indians have migrated to the lack of any political representation has meant that they have been left to their own devices and anyone will tell you that in host countries with sizable Indian populations, they have dominated the economic and commercial landscape. In western and more affluent countries they have done extremely well in the corporate sector nad you hardly hear of an Indian destitute.

Why even bother asking anything of the Prime minister? What Uthayakumar should be championing is convince the Malaysian Indian that he is alone out there and he has to fend for himself and his family.

The present strategy to seek the PM's indulgence is only to say that after having relied and now given up on MIC to deliver to them, they are now seeking the magnanimity of the PM and his government.

I would like to tell Uthayakumar that the Malaysian Indians have it in their psyche and in their make up to strike it on their own without the need for any kind of political intervention. After all how many of you really know a Malaysian Indian other than Samy Velu who owes his success and wealth to MIC or any other political party?

Poor lower class indian. Did anyone tell them that in the history, you can only fight for your rights than beg it.

Yes, finally the Indians are voicing out the plights publicly. Hope more to come, with support of other races.

Will we see the day where Malay and Chinese protesting for their Indian brothers. That will be a great present for 50th Merdeka.

go peeps!

we gotta fight for our rights.

lets hope your voices are heard.

can there be any subtitles?

The Indian community is unfortunately the "collateral damage" of the NEP. Its socio-economic situation is fast deteriorating, and the symptoms are everywhere. Many Indian boys drop out of school or underperform at school. A gangster culture with thugs becoming role models for youths.
Very important to hear the cries of the disposessed, but will anyone listen ?

The said 2% of Indian ownership of the economy is mostly in the hands of a few mega-rich tycoons and MIC linked figures.

"...making up about 8% of the country’s population, they own less than 2% of its national wealth..."

2%....?

If you remove Ananda Krishnan's and Tony Fernandez's share, how many % is left for the rest of the Indian Malaysian community? Is there a study on wealth/income disparity specifically within the Indian Malaysian community?

ref:http://tinyurl.com/28tct6

Low birth rate of Indians

THE foreign worker population in the country has exceeded that of the local Indian community, Berita Harian reported.

In a front-page special report, the paper said there are 1.91 million foreign workers, against 1.88 million Malaysian Indians.

The number does not include the estimated 40,000 foreigners who had entered the country illegally and some 10,000 foreigners being held at Immigration detention depots.

The paper said the Immigration Department and the demographic statistics unit of the Statistics Department issued the figures, up to June 30.

A Statistics Department source said the situation has been further aggravated by the slow growth of the Indian population, due to factors such as low fertility among the women and late marriages.

On the other hand, the number of foreigners is expected to rapidly increase when projects under the 9th Malaysia Plan go on-stream.

The report said the country's population now stands at 27.17 million, comprising:

the Malays (13.77 million),
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other bumipuras (2.9 million) (who are they?)

Chinese (6.3 million),

Indians (1.88 million),

other Malaysians (326,000)

and non-citizens or foreign workers (1.91 million).

By 2009, the population is forecast to increase to 28.31 million, with 2.05 million of them being non-citizens or foreign workers and the others being Malays (14.41 million), other bumiputras (3.13 million), Chinese (6.44 million), Indians (1.94 million) and other Malaysians (340,000).

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In the film Benn said: “Choice depends on the freedom to choose. And if you’re shackled with debt, you don’t have the freedom to choose.
“People in debt become hopeless, and hopeless people don’t vote…. See, I think there are two ways in which people are controlled. First of all, frighten people, and, secondly, demoralize them. An educated, healthy and confident nation is harder to govern….
“We don’t want people to be educated, healthy and confident because they will get out of control. The top 1 percent of the world’s population owns 80 percent of the world’s wealth.
“It’s incredible that people put up with it. But they’re poor, they’re demoralized, they’re frightened, and therefore they think perhaps the safest thing to do is take orders and hope for the best.”

I still remember how BN won in IJOKE. One of the main reason is strong support from Idians. You get what you vote for, thats what i wanted to tell them.

I always think: Indian like diagnosed wit AIDS, Chinese got Cancer..both are deadly and counting the last days...its a matter of how long only...

Jeff

My point is this:

WHAT IS MIC DOING? Doesn't Samy Vellu know that the Indians are most marginalised, next to the orang asli?

What the hell is Samy Vellu doing? besides dishing out sewing machines before election time to win Indian votes?

Where is MIC and Samy Vellu when Hindu temples are being destroyed and bulldozed?

And why are Indians still voting in Samy Vellu despite the facts that in general Indians are worse off now than before when compared to other races.

The problems of Malaysian Indians are encapsulated in this perverse joke:

Perception of this Govt:

When it is a Malay problem, it is a NATIONAL problem

When it is a Chinese problem, it is a RACIAL problem.

When it is an Indian problem, it is NOT a problem.

Semi value, Semi value where are you?

I thought you are fighting for the rights of Indians.

MIC, MIC where are you?

I hope you are not sleeping like PM.....

Dear PM, We are watching you. What is your next move? Don't just remain silence.

unite le..

Indian Malaysians (of all creed) number 1.8m something in this country but have numerous political parties representing them.

How can they present a unified front while this persists?

It's actually very simple, EQUALITY!! We want equality!! Why it's so hard to be achieved??

Again, what is DEMOCRACY?

1 a form of government in which the people govern themselves or elect representatives to govern them.

2 a country, state or other body with such a form of government.

3. fair and equal treatment of everyone in an organization, etc., and their right to take part in making decisions.

FAIR AND EQUAL TREATMENT!!! Do we have one in Malaysia to every Malaysian, who they so-called SATU BANGSA, but not bangsa bumiputra and bangsa non-bumiputra???

Who are those SATU BANGSA???

This will never be reported in the mainstream, government controlled newspapers.

After all, the hotshots will decide what the public wants to hear but there are those who knew better than to trust the papers.

I'm probably expecting another rap song propagating its way into the Internet and no it'll not be sung in Chinese.

The NEP has just shifted marginalization from one community to another. That came about because it was applied using the wrong method. Instead of focusing on eliminating poverty in all communities, it became a zero-sum game of 'i win only if you lose'.

So if the NEP arose because of race riots, would the malays who were said to be marginalized be now ready to countenance the same by the indians, and consequently design a new NEP for the indians, especially now that the indian community is starting to feel marginalized when their size is less than even that of foreign workers, dejavu for the malays who must have once felt that during the immigrants period?

Umno will be quick to say it was not in the social compact, and so they need not be bothered by the plight of the indians. And thus there will be no NEP for the indian community.

That leaves one to ask all indians in this country - do you think making a beeline to Putrajaya to file an appeal will result in anything if voting for Barisan Nasional in any constituency didn't?

Only the indians can answer for themselves what has happened to them. Only they will have to wake themselves up as to what they must do next.

Where rights and money are concerned, apple polishing can only take one so far.

FayeChan,
I am sorry to inform you that a youtube rap from the indian lower class is next to impossible.

FYI, they are too poor to buy a computer and get connected to internet. In addition, middle income Indian stay distance from MIC.

To moo_t:

AHHH the humanity of it all! *grins wryly*

So much for wishful thinking.

Protest is good, in a peaceful civil manner. I salute them for making their issues known and somehow it is also part of larger problem affecting us as a nation also. I support some their resolutions though not all.