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"...slaughtering of cows and goats happened everywhere, including government offices."
It serves to show how backward our country is. I was shocked to read that it was done on Parliament grounds! Malaysians are still living in the stone age. It's unhygienic. Slaughtering of animals should be done in an abattoir.

"We did it with noble intentions.” “We are parliamentarians."

The cows would have begged to differ.

This is the 21st century and the leaders of this country show they have the minds of cavemen.

How does slaughtering harmless animals to eat their meat contribute to the blessing and celebraton of a nuptial tie in a land where murders have gone from blowing up someone to cutting ear-to-ear and people are demonstrating on the streets against the semi-comatose sluggishness of the groom's administration which should have been debated for improvement on the very grounds where the celebration is to take place?

Go ahead, make my day - reply.

>>This is first time that a PM has married. In fact this is history and we are celebrating the wedding,” he said, adding that the meat would also be given as alms to nearby mosques.

Does he mean PM before this never married before ? By the way I don't know if any wedding celebration requires sacrifice. We're not living medieval. Imagine there are mat saleh pass by, what impression do they get for this ?

"If it a common practice, will it be acceptable for other MPs to slaughter ‘other’ animals here?” she asked
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Hello YB, you cannot even bring slaugheterd, processed and cooked "other animals" food onto Parliament ground let alone get to slaughter the live "other animals".

I guess it is confirmed to the world that we have a ketua kampung running the country having his kenduri kampung style. What next? Rearing chickens on the lawn?

Right said.

Then there is also the subject of slaughtering cows, when Hindus are around.

So, is this not insulting the hindus?
Lets say, it was chinese new year, and BN big wigs were around, and there was a roast pork being chopped up. I don't think we will hear the end of it.

Now you know why parliament is leaking.

It is design as animal house.

C'mon people ! Its a normal Muslim culture to sacrifice animals and their meat given to charitable organisations ! Hygienic or not its debatable, doing it at our Parliament House a symbol of Multiracial Malaysian DEmocracy is open to opinions but hey he is after all the Prime Minister we duly elected .So whats with the Beef and mutton ?

The omen Jeff alluded to may be that of the fear that a certain master race becoming emboldened to ride rough-shod over all and sundry, sensitivities be damned. Lots of people share this sentiment.

Perhaps, this is a precursor to things more sinister?

I have difficulty telling if some of the idiotic actions from our esteemed parliamentarians stem from their own small minds, or from an institutionalised, systematic directive from a shadowy council of elders.

Parliament has been reduced to a laughing stock some time ago for the quality, integrity, decorum and the rediculous logic, uttrences fit only for the gitters, all from the Govt. side.The latest event turning the Parliament into a slaughter house beats everything that has happened until now and it is unlikely that anything more rediculous and insensitive will happen in the future.

Could not they find a more appropriate place for such inhuman behaviour, leave alone the sensitivity of Budhists and Hindus who are in Parliament,many on the Govt.side, among the back benchers?

I believe Samy was not present as he may have been mistaken for a "cow"( as far as brains are concerned he is) and slaughtered.

I was under the clear impression that the PM wanted a quiet wedding and no receptions thereafter. But that is not what the sees as gatherings are help one after the other to celebrate his wedding.

If anything more bizzare is to happen in parliament in future, only the UMNO MPs can do it.

I believe the non muslim MPs have taken the whole episode in the 'BN SPIRIT OF MUHIBAH' But wait until the boot is on other foot, for example the MCA MPs celebrating CNY with the sacrifice of their favourite animal.

Malaysia has become the laughing stock of the world.

KSN

moo_t,

hahahahahahahaha!!!

I thought you need a license from the vet department to carry out slaughtering of animals? And BTW, were the MIC MPs there too, being a part of the festivities?

An omen indeed. Let's see what we have here: Cultural and religious sensitivities thrown aside, a not-so-smart reply from the Parliamentary Speaker to justify "bloodshed" in Parliament and the wedding feast ala kampung style. I strongly object to this blatant in-your-face arrogance shown by the Backbenchers and other BN MPs with regards to the slaughtering of animals in the Parliament compound.

Hey you MPs! Ever heard of a hotel ballroom? or a multipurpose hall? Hotel Istana/Carcosa Seri Negara (even better) is much much more suitable to grace the occasion of celebrating Pak Lah's wedding.

You have created a dangerous precedent. Granted it's uncommon to have a newly married PM here but why the need to add to the unconventionality by having the feast in Parliament???

It's not that I didn't get invited to the feast and being a sour grape. I am disappointed that it has come to this.

All we hear are objections from the opposition especially the non-malays. What about BN MPs? Not a peep? Takutkah? Don't eat ricekah?

just like in Animal Farm where some are more equal than others....
Who were the lead animals???

this is a mere reflection of what is to come in the next riot. The backbenchers were practisisng the art of slughtering.

Moo_t, it is a big deal. Just as we close an eye for the mis-use of office, it eventually becomes a cancer.
We need to revert to the standards that was upheld by our leaders at the time of Malaya's independence. Lets use Tun Ismail's standard of office as the standard bearer.
Are we capable of doing that?

Questions..1. why they have to slaughtered the animal at the Parliament House?

2. Are they don't have any contact from the caterers, that make them to slaughtered the animal?

come on people, nowadays most people in the city will call their caterers to provide the foods for the guest. and here, oh please..what a waste

ZakarRia: I guess it is confirmed to the world that we have a ketua kampung running the country having his kenduri kampung style. What next? Rearing chickens on the lawn?
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Good one on this. Leave out religions and sensitivities aside. Just think of it - slaughtering animals in Parliament????

Has the parliament reduced to become abattoir?

Well, come the next general election, lots of the animals in the animal farm are going to be slaughtered or decimated for sure .... hopefully.

Might(power) is right. I believe even GOD will NOT say that.

I can safely say 99% of muslims in the country will support this, as it is an important aspect of Islamic life.

We as a community do this all the time, particularly during the Haj celebrations. If any of you actually took the time to read and study why slaughering is required in Islam, then perhaps you will have a better understanding.

And please don't equate this with the roasting of Babe either. There is a religious dimension to this, the consuming of pork as someone here pointed out is out of one's taste buds. Surely there is a clear distinction which is a more compelling reason.

Much more compelling is the reasons that could be raised by the Hindus. However, we understand the sensitivities of them, and I can say that if it does nto appeal to them, to not witness this event at all. We do not oppose your religious compulsions, so I believe its only fair that we get to do what our religion requires of us.

There are many cases where we abstain ourselves from joining any celebrations that we are not comfortable about and do not make a whimper out of it, but you lot, to all and sundry you trumpet it out how we don't respect your beliefs and what not. I bet this will go out on the wire all around the world as another example of Islam trying to browbeat the minority. Such hypocrisy.

Sorry, but the whole lot of you have lost the plot and put way too much meaning into something that is an everyday occurance for a muslim.

One has to wonder why religious tolerance in this forum only alludes to what the non-muslims find objectionable (sorry if its the wrong word). Well, I wish to raise my objection to such inconsiderate, ignorant comments by you lot. Also the fact that you lot gleefully attack whatever that is Islamic.

Someone here mention riots and what not, and heaven forbid, keep this up, there could very well be riots. And that won't be good to anyone.

Recently, cries of "Bodoh! Bodoh! Bodoh!" came from within the halls of parliament. Now there is "korban, korban, korban".. the omen - is it going to be "bunuh! bunuh! bunuh!"? The overhelming majority of BN MPs having their feel-good thingy about gaining another huge majority to "slaughter" the Opposition. Read the signs? Yeah. Read the ominous and unpleasant signs of BN arrogance and abuse of the hallowed halls of the parliament building and compound, all of which disgrace even the blind can see!

This is the kind of parliamentarian mentality that worries TunDrMahathir.

"Saya sokong, saya sokong!". What is so great to celebrate Abdullah's second marriage? and must it be done in Parliament? and slaughter the animals there?. damned this BNBBC when will they grow-up?.

Haha, good one alfabob...

"Someone here mention riots and what not, and heaven forbid, keep this up, there could very well be riots. And that won't be good to anyone."

I am non-muslim and it give me a chill. Must be careful of what I said...

Anyway...Since the Constitution can be overcome in the name of "RELIGION TOLERANCE"(to their convenience of course) I think it's ok to slaughter some cows though.

Err...frankly, with due respect to the newly wed PM and wife, I don't really feel happier nor sadder by their marriage.

So, again frankly, I don't find there is anything to celebrate. Do you guys?

If PM is happy, good for him. Don't bother the nation with this trivial matter. We have more pressing issues than a wedding. Sigh.

Last I heard, a relationsip and marriage is a private affair.

Since when did it become a political affair?

Alfabob. "... what our religion requires of us."
Since when did Islam require Muslims to slaughter animals on Parliament grounds? On what authority can you "safely say 99% of muslims in the country will support this"? Did you make a survey? I can, however, say that of seven of my muslim friends, five think it's stupid when there are so many other places more suitable for such a celebration. What is commented here is about our thoughtless BN politicians, nothing to do with Islam, a religion I respect, although I believe it's high time it's brought into the 21st century. I wish I've a video of the incident so I can put it on youtube to show what kind of morons are running this backward country. As far as I can see, the only ignorant comment made so far here is written by you.

"Err...frankly, with due respect to the newly wed PM and wife, I don't really feel happier nor sadder by their marriage.

So, again frankly, I don't find there is anything to celebrate. Do you guys?

If PM is happy, good for him. Don't bother the nation with this trivial matter. We have more pressing issues than a wedding. Sigh.

Last I heard, a relationsip and marriage is a private affair.

Since when did it become a political affair?"

Entirely true. I'm frustrated when we lose sight of the objective of making Malaysia a better governed state and instead concentrate on issues such as this which would only create divisions.

There's a lot that we Malaysians, be it non bumis and bumis, have common ground on, the same wants, the same aspirations, but as a people continue to bring out issues which on divides us further.

Like I said before, pls get some perspective about this. Slaughtering is a common Islamic practice, required for all Halal meats. We give the meat to charity, to the poor esp during the Haj. I think we're all smart enough to know that we muslims do this, and the non muslims do their own peculiar rituals etc.

Alfabob, interesting enough you mentioned
'We do not oppose your religious compulsions, so I believe its only fair that we get to do what our religion requires of us.'
'Well, I wish to raise my objection to such inconsiderate, ignorant comments by you lot. Also the fact that you lot gleefully attack whatever that is Islamic.'

I respect your religion well enough to fill in whenever my muslim colleagues observe their daily prayer.

Sadly, when you use 'we' you have included yourself in those other 'inconsiderate' acts that have been perpetrated on we others.
I can cite many examples, but I am not trying to blow this up.
It seems, these days, with the ketuanan attitude of these umnoputras, sensitivity to others have been brushed aside.
Imposing prayer during general assembly is one of them. Insensitive towards non muslims is construed as the right to perform duty.
Why can't we leave religion out of it? If we include, then why 'others' are not allowed so?

alfabob, let's be honest here.

If I were to slaughter Babe (as you called it) in my residential area to celebrate my daughter's wedding, when my neighbour is a Malay Muslim (I suspect I wouldn't have too much of an issue with an Indian/Chinese Muslim), would it not sit too well? I'd expect a Umno Youth mob in front of my house demanding for my head. And followed by the inspectors from the Health Ministry, the town council, and some MCA branch head. And, lastly, the DAP, Anwar Ibrahim would make statements "defending" my rights.

I don't think any one is contesting the right of Muslim folk from the practice of slaughtering.

Most people here are just a little miffed that the "hallowed" parliamentarian grounds are used.

Cows can go to the parliament, but I remember from times past that a citizen who makes a wrong detour into the parliament used to be slapped with a summons.

Much more compelling is the reasons that could be raised by the Hindus. However, we understand the sensitivities of them, and I can say that if it does nto appeal to them, to not witness this event at all. We do not oppose your religious compulsions, so I believe its only fair that we get to do what our religion requires of us.

Well said (NOT!!!)Alfabob....and i say go read the book Animal Farm by George Orwell. What was the Final Commandment again???

alfabob, the following paragraph refers:-

Much more compelling is the reasons that could be raised by the Hindus. However, we understand the sensitivities of them, and I can say that if it does nto appeal to them, to not witness this event at all. We do not oppose your religious compulsions, so I believe its only fair that we get to do what our religion requires of us.

I hope your 99% brethen practices what you have said.

Kindly gives us the slack to:-

Play nombor ekor for luck.
Enjoy reality shows with real compassionate expression.
Having entertainment in discos/pubs without the raid.
Having banana leaf rice in an Indian shop with incense smell and environment.
Places of worship in every taman like the surau.
Running a business with our chosen partners.
Usage of our mother tongue in Primary education.

If any of the above offended you, please refer to the first paragraph.

alliedmartster

Why would imposing prayers during a GA be wrong, especially since solat is a pillar of the Islamic faith?Since the majority of those who attend the GA is muslim, is it not practical for them to allow for prayers?

Yumcious,

There's nothing wrong for you to have babe cooked for any occasion whatsoever, even if its done at your home. However, you also need to look at where your home is. If its in a housing area, and your home is a linked house, even slaughtering a cow should rightly draw the attention of the health authorities, because its a residential area, and housing compounds are small and cramped and do not promote hygiene.

But the parliament parking lot is a totally different matter. It's an opened area, its not in a residential area,there's its well ventilated and hygienic. If not just the perception and imagination of those who equates the slaughtering of cows as a threat to themselves, this whole debate is a non-starter.

The shedding of cow blood in the parking lot hardly equates to the shedding of the blood of Ceasar and the end of the Roman republic.

Hi Roxanne,

I don't think I need to state I did a poll, just because theres no way to prove it and no way you can verify it. However, coming from the various suraus and mosques that I go to, generally people are quite happy that such a blessing was done on such a hallowed ground, not exactly in those words but close enough I suppose. Korban is a highly regarded part of the muslim way of life. I do not say that your muslim friends are less pious, less of a muslim etc, and their views are to be respected, but I'm just pointing out to my mid, my perception, living here away from the city, that the majority of us rural folks think quite differently. Maybe your friends are right, maybe we are right, who is to judge but God, but last I heard, the rural folks has a majority.

Dear NYC,

You're right, I've never read Animal Farm, and I'm sure it's a fantastic piece of literature, but I don't think I'm the only one in this country who has not read it, in fact I dare say many of us have not. We might be missing that vital piece of human enlightening that you possess, but we have other sources that we refer to, so who's to say our sources are no better than your Animal Farm?

So, why not do us a favour and kindly tell us what is it in Animal Farm you want us to look up, and if you're at it, why not enlighten us on the Final Commandment as well??

Not to say that you're wrong of course, but trying to be smart and sarcastic with those you are trying to win over is hardly an effective technique no?

Alfabob does really have a way with words to quietly express his message that somehow Islam is brought into the whole discussion.
The crux is that parliment is not your mosque which you can impose your entire sacrifice here....BBC have no budget for a proper place to celebrate the wedding.

Open space can be equated with Prime Minister's residence or the castle which the taxpayer money been diverted from fighting crime to maintain the King's lawn for his afternoon tea.

Babes before sales are usually slaughtered in a slaughter house far away from muslim brethen. U don see the chinese does it in the Parliment to celebrate CNY. so what give you the right.

Side line: Imposing prayers just because majority of students are muslim is already a crime in itself as there are still people of other religion around. Unless ur school is a sekolah agama, national schools should be rid away from Muslim prayers. Anotehr solution is to allow buddhist, hindus and christians says their prayer over the mic , giving fair airtime for them to express their freedom of religion as fairly as muslim as enshrined inthe consitution

Back to the topic.

Parliment is a pillar and representatives of the people and therefore should fit the bill , and not use it as a slaughterhouse.

Should those excuses can be used by BBC. Can DAP and other opposition party use the same venue for roasting a BABE , doing what their religion requires them to do.?
Or is there going to be another riot or demonstration??

“This is the first time such an incident has happened in Parliament. Furthermore, cows are sacred to Hindus,” lamented M Kulasegaran (DAP-Ipoh Barat).

Indeed they are, but I doubt that the Hindus present at Parliament that day were subject to watch the slaughtering of the cows, or be even standing near the tents that were set up, so that most people would not have to see what would happen. I would have to agree with Alfabob here, as the slaughtering of cows is commonplace in most Malay weddings, and having been to some, I would say that I have never laid eyes on cattle being chopped before my very eyes.

Though I would admit that it could have been done in better taste. Not in Parliament, but in the PM's house & grounds for example, and just telling everyone to stay away from the slaughter, for obvious reasons. Or just doing the killing on grounds far away from Parliament so that people wouldn't have to see or hear.

The words "cows are sacred to Hindus" implies that the Hindus are unhappy with beef being served at the ceremony dinner. Well, whoop-dee-doo friend, you're not forced to partake in the rendang that'll come on the plates later, which is why they also brought some goats, so that you could have your mutton, and hopefully they would tell you what to eat and what not to eat.

I don't oppose what they did in Parliament, Malay custom to its own, though I think it should have been done elsewhere. Which is what I think we should be more bothered about than the actual killing itself.