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Even if 100% of chinese and indians had voted for the opposition, Umno still rules. sabah and sarawak which comprise more than 50% of Malaysia's land mass and contributed a hefty sum of energy exports are given only 53 seats of a total 219 seats in Parliament. Wishful thingking.

Ibrahim Suffian sounds like the Iraqi Defence Minister speaking on TV public that everything is fine at the end of the Iraq War.

It is interesting to note that the Opposition really hasn't contributed much to sway the Malaysian voters towards them. It is only through the sins and misdeeds of the present govt that the people are so sick of them and would have just given their vote to anyone other than from the BN.

Looks like all the Opposition need to do this time is to avoid stepping on each others' toes.

2/3 is not enough, though. However, if the present govt continues to do what it is doing now (happily making a mess of this country), I am sure a bigger majority will not be impossible.

So, we reduce MCA in the BN equation, and possibly increase the Opposition. What does this do to the Chinese voice in the government? And for that matter the Indian voice as well?

The lie of the electorate is still with the village folk. In densely populated Klang Valley, Penang, Ipoh and all such like Chinese populated areas, the repreentative is still one as compared to the sparsely populated villages who also send one representative.

Will the will of the Chinese and for that matter other races be heard? For now, it is made known to us loud and clear that it is a NO. Can this change?

It has been drummed often enough, NO, NO and No.

Some factors...

1. "Dah dua tahun berturut mengangkat dan cium keris. Bila Datuk Hisham nak bertikam sekali-kali?"

The keris may be a symbol of the Malays, but the context in which it is used is important.
Keris on a flag = Symbol
Keris to stab yellow pulut? Something else altogether!

2. "Umno was weak at that time and people took advantage of that.” by everyone's favorite SIL.

Meanwhile, many Malays blame the Chinese for siding with the BN in 1998, claiming that if it were not for the Chinese, BN would have lost power. So I guess its damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Guys, anymore?

Uthayakumar must surely have a major problem in his hand. There he is accusing the police and the authorities for targeting Indians, Hindus, their temples and so on and here you have a majority of them still thinking supporting the BN government is the way to go. Looks like we Indians have not had our heads whacked enough by the authorities!

Your findings are not surprising. I find it interesting that you didn't look at it from a geographical angle instead, because if my hunch is right, most of the city folk are more tolerant towards voting for the Opposition when compared to the town and village folk.

Also, I personally note that most of the UMNO members are linked to state royalty (don't bring up Raja Petra), thus being able to use this status to their advantage.

My guess is the 22% of the group who disagreed and will vote for the front are those 'non-marginalised" ones like
OKT, KTK, LKY etc. I know
somewhere I am wrong, the 'NM's can't be this high in percentage though.

May not be the case.

I would interested to see where the chinese population is sampled. If the majority are from an area with malay concentration, there is not enough vote to carry any impact.

If the chinese are from chinese populated area, they are traditionally DAP stronghold anyway.

Any chance to point to the complete report Jeff ?

The so called "swing" will NOT happen until the majority of this country's population decided to do so. And that will only happened when all the resources of the country are sucked dry by the UMNOPutras.

MCA and Gerakan will definitely have big casualties in the next election. The question now is, how bad it will be.

"...Chinese-based political parties in the BN are capable of countering the negative sentiments before the general election. "

It confirms my point all a long. Malaysian Chinese voters have short memory, and they don't see beyond their noses when they go to vote.

They get easiliy suckered into empt UMNO promises about fairness in scholarships, univeristy places, Chinese schools etct etc, and when the election is over and BN wins, UMNO starts its anti-Chinese policies every 5 years over the last 30 years.

And yet, Malaysian Chinese voters still vote MCA in.

Not realising that voting MCA is voting for UMNO to be the dominant Malay party in Govt. And what has UMNO done to the Chinese and to the MCA over the last 30 years. UMNO leadership treats MCA like dirt, as if it never existed in Govt or in Cabinet and even get bullied by UMNO Youth ( a bunch of greedy below 40 kids). The only thing MCA is proud of is that it has Cabinet Ministers who are "spokesmen" for UMNO on policies (and have them translated into Mandarin) to the Chinese.

So, Malaysian Chinese cannot put their vote where their mouth is...only good at whining and whingeing on the internet blogs, char koay teow stall and mamak stalls.

After the next general election, Malaysian Chinese should just accept all the crap from UMNO and UMNO Youth as it done so sheepishly with tails between their legs over the last 30 years. Meanwhile people like Ong Ka Ting and Ng Yen Yen will go on to get their Tan Sri-ship by being the YES-Man and YES-Woman of UMNO.

Actually, crunching the numbers, this isn't really that big a deal. About a third of the Malays will vote opposition, okay - 1/3 of 60% of the population is 20%. A third of the Indians for the opposition is the same as about 3%. Two-thirds of the Chinese? 20% of the total population, at the most.

Total? About 43%. Support for the opposition in terms of the popular vote has consistently hovered between 35% and 45% since independence - this is not a particularly unique trend.

I do not agree that I have voted on short memories. I voted in MCA for 3 decades because I think they have done a good job working within the system. It wasn't perfect but it was good for my parents, for my children and for me. BN Chinese component parties have always keep an eye on the oppositions because experiences have shown that Chinese voters will register their unhappiness during election. It was the business communities that provided the solid backing for them. Of late, Chinese business communities have been subjected to a fair bit of unfairness. The policy of 'working within the system' does not seem to work anymore; perhaps the partners are arrogant and conceit now. If they want a secure ticket, they have to work hard to win back the trust of the business communities. Impressive statistics will not work because cash is hard, cold and no bull shit.

I am surprised that only 33% of the Indians will vote for the opposition. From my conversation with friends and others the percentage is nearer to 60% like the Chinese. This is authenticated every time you talk to an Indian and the state of the Malaysian politics with particular reference to MIC. As much as the Chinese feel let down by the ruling party, so do the Indians feel that their so called backers, MIC is a failure. There are too many examples to quote to prove this point.Suffice to say Indians have no future with BN. Perhaps the opposition, will at least, say something when an injustice is done to the Indians. Believe me there are many.

I wonder how long more the marginalised would still want to be marginalised. Perhaps they want their children to be the marginalised ones too like them and their forefathers?

MCA, MIC, Gerakan. What have they done for us? Politicians gets richer while we get poorer. ACA should have check on how many of the politicians got to be so rich on their govt pay...everyone knows there is hanky panky even the coolie how come the 'educated' ACA people cant see this? Or wont they want to see it? UMNO...racist and keris happy.

Vote BN out and get out from being the marginalised and be truly Malaysians.

Folks

The current political landscape where UMNO got itself so well entrenched to win every election is because our forefathers couldn't see beyond their noses. The Chinese was interested in making money, send some back to China, make more money.

As for the Indians, they are too concerned about their own immediate family, trying to one-up against their next door Indian family, (caste system came into play in some ways) that they calculated themselves out of the political system... the smarter ones thought that by going into Law they can beat the political system ( but they lost).

The point is: Our forefathers who should have been more concerned about the political future of their next generations, lost the plot totally. UMNO was smart enough and capitalised on it.

Now, our generation is doing the same thing. They go overseas, get a job and let others do their dirty work on the political problems, while they pontificate over a cup of cafe latte and cappucino in Gloria Jeans or Starbuck or else, whinge on the internet blogs.

Its the same story about the Malaysian Chinese and Malaysian Indians. They cannot see beyond their noses still on the politics of this country, like their forebears who decided to stay on in this country.

vital9

I did not get your point.

Three decades voting for MCA/MIC ?? What do the Malaysian Chinese/Indians get from UMNO's rule since 1957.

Think Govt scholarships, especially those with perfect scores, think University places and choice of careers, again think of those with perfect scores, and those with less perfect scores, think of schools, think of those promises about vernacular schools, think of the polarised society.

Yeah, it is good for you..that' s the typical selfishness of the Malaysian Chinese while politics in this country is about race and community... and it is that selfishness that is the heartache of the chinese community.

We don't begrudge your good fortune provided by MCA or MIC. What about those poor kids with perfect score and this UMNO-Govt says no to scholarship and to add insult to injury, stream them into a course where a mediocre and below average student can pass the course. What nonsense!

We need a strong opposition coalition. Who do you think can lead the opposition?
If there is a good leader, he or she will be able to defect some of the good politicians from the existing UMNO or lets say cause a spilt in the party to defect towards the opposition. It will take a couple brave souls to defect and cause a viral effect for the good politicians to defect. What do you think?

by now, i'm sure that the government in power is doing every possible things to make sure that they stay in power - nevermind about the loss of the independent in Batu Talam.

the powers-that-be will still be singing the same sweet tune by the end of the next general election

Enough has been said. If we really want a change, lets put our hearts together on this and come out with a blue print to vote BN out. Its like writing a book with the title "how to have a strong opposition and win the general election?" It will be authored by each and everyone of us, it will consist of our thoughts and a blue print for the opposition alliance to be set up and win the next general election. What do you say?

Now we know why the internet is only available at selected areas and not nation wide, that is to manage blogging, so 60% of the people are not able to read the virtual media..

Like it or not, any democratic country will simply get better (less corruption & hanky-panky, better use of tax-payer money, blah blah) by having stronger opposition very much like in USA (Republican vs Democrat) or UK (Conservative vs Labour). The check & balance is definitely there, and competition is always a win situation for citizen.

divide and conquer. now u wonder why prime lands are being used to develop low costs houses and only meant for one species?

Jefus said

"So, we reduce MCA in the BN equation, and possibly increase the Opposition. What does this do to the Chinese voice in the government? And for that matter the Indian voice as well? "

What makes you think that the chinese and indian voices are heard even, as now, when they are part of the government? Stop dreaming. The government is not a BN government. It is an UMNO govaernment.

Having the chinese and indians out of the government will only reflect the actual position that the government is a racist government of one race.

Why provide the UMNO with an umbrella to say that they are a multi-racial government when they are obviously NOT.

Let the world know the truth that the UMNO government is a racist government and not a multi-racial government

I came back to Malaysia for family reunion 1 week ago. I arrived at KLIA, and saw this VIP LIMO, a.k.a. high class taxi, queing for passengers. These VIP LIMOs are wholly made up of 90s Benz with really bad outlook maintenance. IMO, instead of making passengers feel like VIPs, they make passengers feel like fool. Dont believe? Go to KLIA and take a look yourself. I doubt our humble, honest and well-respected politicians will ever take a ride in those Benz.

Chatted with the driver (I took a Waja), asked him about the Daewoo car seen on the q line, as I had never seen these KLIA Daewoo taxis before this. According to the taxi driver, this Daewoo car is no longer in production and spare parts for tat particular car is no longer available in the market. I wonder why KLIA Daewoo taxi exist? Why Benz? Why not Perdana, Wira or Waja?

I'm not off topic, this shows how good our national property KLIA - if i'm not mistaken, and our national image are handled in these ppl hand.

On my way back to my home, I saw many new elevated highways. Read Uncle Sam's complaint that it's not his own decision for all the highways, it's the cabinet's decision.

How many times have we heard them saying the same thing?

I'm tired.

There are two important factors which an urban person who spends a lot of time on the internet may not be fully aware of.
First the rural economy is actually doing reasonably well, with good commodity prices giving higher income to Felda settlers, smallholder etc. And some of the cost of living increases have less impact in rural areas.
The second is a lot of people still do not have access to the internet, and even if they do, don't use it to read alternative news or politics. These folks either don't bother much with politics or only read/watch the Mainstream media. They very likely end up supporting BN by default.
I'm afraid its still an uphill struggle for the Opposition, in spite of all the misteps of Dollah and his pirate gang.

See how effective NEP is? It benefits UMNO! Of the Malay votes in the survey, the 1/3 votes going to the opposition are probably PKN or PAS supporters.

To the Chinese, it is agreed that it has always been a bread and butter issue. The fun to watch if anything comes to pass when MCA and Gerakan become casualty would be the fighting among the two of them. After the 69 May 13 racial riot, Gerakan was roped into BN to countercheck MCA.... remember that.

The lies about power sharing among component parties in BN is absolute. I'm shocked to read that that are still people who will believe that if MCA and Gerakan become casualty, there will be no more representative voice of the community in Parliament. Digging a little into history, this propaganda line was started by Tan Siew Sin back in 1969 ...

Quote: 'If the opposition manages to wrest key seats from MCA, it will mean that the country will be ruled by an Alliance Government without Chinese participation. It would mean in effect a confrontation between a Government without Chinese participation and a practically all-Chinese opposition'.

After the quasi-coup of May 13, Harold Crouch, in his book 'Government and Society in Malaysia', described:

'In circumstances where politicians from all communities feel compelled to adopt rigid policies on ethnic issues, compromise becomes almost impossible to achieve with the result that multi-ethnic coalitions either break apart or cannot be formed in the first place. Ethnic antagonisms continue to grow; and, in the end, multi-ethnic democratic government is likely to be replaced by a regime dominated by A SINGLE ethnic group that resorts to authoritarian means to consolidate its power'.

A further quote from Tun Abdul Razak in 1970:

'The government is based on UMNO and I surrender its responsibility to UMNO in order that UMNO shall determine its form - the government must follow the wishes and desires of UMNO - and it must implement policies which are determined by UMNO'.

In summing up, if you need MCA or Gerakan or MIC or SUPP to represent you, it is better you [ DELETED ] support UMNO.

I am not the 'selfishness that caused the political headache'. I do not enjoy any gravy from the G men. I am just one of those >90% typical b-men that work very very hard for the business. I am just as upset as you when the taxes and tolls we paid did not benefit us at all; contrary to what SV might think. But I have seen our bright students given scholarships by the business communities and other G-ment. I have seen them coming back proud and independent. I don't understand why parents are so pre-occuppied with getting into the medical faculty. In other countries, bright students do not become doctors. Besides, I have seen others who have been deprived of a deserving places in U becoming people of substances in our society. So inspite of the negatively in TDM premiership,there was many positive outcomes. It is because of this factor, I voted MCA/MIC, waiting patiently for things to improve or for someone better to come along. I thought AAB was a good thing that came along. But changes are in the wind. Honestly, can last minute PR repair the damages done. BN will win again, but without the business communities, things will get ulgy. The most I can do now is to register a protest. Hopefully, thing will get better.

we all know voting out the MCA and MIC candidates out will not make any difference..UMNO still rules.

But see the damage done to the dignity and pride of these reps...the MCA,MIC BN reps will no longer get their allowance, no longer be called YB, no longer be invited to functions..in short..they will be just orang biasa.

And this will certainly send a signal to the rest of UMNO lapdogs, that we can consign them to the rubbish heap if just put our vote on an opposition candidate.

Friends, there's a serious chasm in your voting philosophy here. We no longer vote for UMNO/MCA/MIC. A vote for MCA is a vote for UMNO.

MCA might have one superhero on their side, but giving a vote to BN as a way to be grateful to Michael Chong and gang is irresponsible.

The knowledgeable population already know that, hence the poll result. But the rest of the country don't.

So it comes down to this same rant: they chose the government, so they had it coming. But us with the knowledge didn't do anything to swing them, we had it coming.

Just my advise to people like vital9 :

Power corrupt. Absolute power corrupt absolutely.

What you do is no different than people that supporting the British colonization and against the independent call to maintain status quo.

The rules of thumb never change since recorded history.

GRex

You said.....they chose the government, so they had it coming. But us with the knowledge didn't do anything to swing them, we had it coming.

Beautifully put. Couldn't have said it better. Thanks

vitaly

You said...I don't understand why parents are so pre-occuppied with getting into the medical faculty. In other countries, bright students do not become doctors.

That's exactly what the UMNO leaders and UMNO Youth wannabes, the DPM Najib, Herishammudian, the keris-proud Education Minister etc, had been saying to the Chinese/Indian students who had perfect score.

You have just parroted what UMNO is saying to deny the non Malays students with perfect score to choose the career they want. It is not up to you to come here and tell what career these students want to pursue. No wonder you voted MCA/MIC so that UMNO can continue to run this country with their prejudices against nonMalays, especially the smart young nonMalay kids, whose parents are too poor to send overseas. You probably are the lucky ones helped by MCA and UMNO

Dear Alls,
Please don't hammer me anymore. I am not a MCA lap dog. If voting perference is not 'OSA', I would state 'frank and honest' that I am voting the Opposition this time even if 'they spin until the cows come home'. It is my own hypothesis that the past Colonial power and the present power trapped most of our bright and smart childern into the medical faculty and prevented many from exploring a wider horizon. In fact, many doctors do not practise after their 'long and difficult study' but went into politics and research. If we allow our childern from a very young age to consider other options, you might even get your own Bill Gate. Is very unfortunate that many who opted for the medical faculty did not get in because of color...I was one of them. But why add more bitterness to our childern. Many have grown up to become successful pillar of strenght, inspite of, the early set back. Many have also become honorable critizens and inventors for their adopted countries who recognised them. I only pity Malaysia.

People, please STOP. daydreaming. somethings would never change if we dont change first.

As I have said many times in this blog before, you vote for monkeys you get monkeys. I guess Malaysians especially those in Kampongs will never learn. They are happy with this kind of idiots running our country. So what to do? So much for Cermerlang, Gemilang & Terbilang....podah!

PentiumanC2D:
Who do you mean by "those in the kampungs" who let idiots run the country?
Those in the kampungs in Kelantan and Terengganu are not like those that you know.
In spite of threats and punshhment, the Kelantan kampung folks have voted opposition long ago.
It is the non malays who talk and talk and when the time comes, go out and vote BN and UMNO. After that, they start complaining about BN until the next election and it all happens again. UMNO is strong because of non malay support. So please stop whining and complaining when you are the ones who put those idiots in the government in the first place.
They say cowards die many times before their death, so it is the same after every election.

LJ