For whom the tolls toll?... ( 4 )
A peaceful People's gathering to voice their grouses. It happened this afternoon at Bandar Sunway.







LensaPress photos by Leonard Yang, Paul Choo and Jeff Ooi
A banner reads: "It now costs more to be poor!"
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A peaceful People's gathering to voice their grouses. It happened this afternoon at Bandar Sunway.







LensaPress photos by Leonard Yang, Paul Choo and Jeff Ooi
A banner reads: "It now costs more to be poor!"
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Sad to see we are turning our streets into another Jakarta.
Posted by: azk
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January 7, 2007 11:47 PM
If SPR and press are truly independent, this wouldn't have happened. This is only common in country infested with corruption and incompetent people in power.
Posted by: azk
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January 7, 2007 11:53 PM
Not Jakarta. At least people here is multi racial. Jakarta one is Jawa man against China man :P
Posted by: kelangman88
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January 8, 2007 12:07 AM
The secret to a government's success is measured by how well the quality of life the people is living. BN failed this miserably.
BN has failed to build a nation of muhibbah among races.
BN failed (and keep on failing) to catch up with the march of globalisation and modernization. Even Vietnam will move ahead of us soon.
BN is now scrambling to find an excuse to garner votes; having lost its grip on economic merits, it plays up racial sentiments to instill fear.
Instead of benchmarking against the top, the government looks at what's left below and tells us how well we are doing.
Posted by: azk
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January 8, 2007 12:24 AM
At least it managed to make all the races come together to protest toll hike. I think that's the greatest achievement that it can boast for country unity. How ironic :P
Posted by: kelangman88
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January 8, 2007 12:35 AM
BN need not find excuses to garner to votes. They are thru with that. They dont need to give empty promises anymore to woo voters. Money talks.
Posted by: groo
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January 8, 2007 12:40 AM
Make you wondered where are all the "scarecrows" of The Star, NST etc. Real useless bunch of newpapers' editors, who dared not report the truth in mainstream papers. I hope they are reading these, useless buggers!
Posted by: maggieq
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January 8, 2007 12:44 AM
The protest is done in the most peaceful way. The opposition leaders did not provoke the people to act against the police aggresively. In fact, they even say 'thank you' to the police at the end of the protest.
If you think that the protest has caused interruption to people like like traffic jam in the sunway area, please don't blame the protestors because the protest is by the roadside to show to the passing-by cars. The FRU blocked the whole road in front of Sunway Pyramid so that they can deploy their nice formation(with their frontline all the malay chicks) and their watergun car.
Posted by: Steve
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January 8, 2007 02:31 AM
The protest is done in the most peaceful way. The opposition leaders did not provoke the people to act against the police aggresively. In fact, they even say 'thank you' to the police at the end of the protest.
If you think that the protest has caused interruption to people life like traffic jam in the sunway area, please don't blame the protestors because the protest is by the roadside to show to the passing-by cars. The FRU blocked the whole road in front of Sunway Pyramid so that they can deploy their nice formation(with their frontline all the malay chicks) and their watergun car.
Posted by: Steve
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January 8, 2007 02:32 AM
You are sad that we are turning the streets into another Jakarta? If I am Indonesian, I'd be offended by that comment. At least the Indonesians in Jakarta have the guts to go out there and fight against what they perceive as wrong. This is not some trivial thing we want to stand up for.
In fact, most of us Malaysians are content cows. I'm wished there was more people today. I thought Malaysians were unhappy that we are being burdened by many things like corruption; fuel, water, electric and toll hikes; but I suppose I was wrong. It seems many of us are too well-off to even bother.
Posted by: The Doctor's Muse
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January 8, 2007 04:16 AM
Me being there 1st time,spotted Jeff taking photos with some Lensa members around. Being there increases the credibility of me as a commentor and citizen for what have been said of the toll naik issue.
It still appears that many commentors here don't have that guts and credibility for it as they are probably to indifferent about the toll increase or just too rich to even bother about it.
Seeing the different layers of society trickling in with their families , uniting as truly a rakyat Malaysia almost seems so nostalgic and very apparently fed up with the present government. Enough is enough. Hopefully as demonstration takes place, some polictican would start to act based on their conviction on this rather than on greed.
Posted by: Kayanbutter
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January 8, 2007 06:09 AM
will it work? heard rumours that our dear SV is currently in India right now. So will he be even bothered about it?
Posted by: kacang_inc
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January 8, 2007 06:51 AM
Actually, if this was another Jakarta (according to my Indonesian friend), the cops would be running from the protestors. At least until the army comes. So, don't worry about being too offended on behalf of the Indonesians. ;)
Posted by: Unladen Swallow
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January 8, 2007 07:16 AM
First and foremost, I state my total disagreement towards the protest due to the fact that, well, I just didn't see the sense in it at all. The location was at a shopping mall, which was supposedly near the building for Litrak, whereas the agreement was signed and officiated by Samy Vellu, who is, apparently, currently in India.
So what was the point we were making? That we, as Malaysians, have no idea of where to form a protest?
Location,location, location.
Also, this talk about media bias. The protest got a mention in the papers, which is better than the blackout during the petrol hike protest. So give the government controlled media some credit.
Finally, no, Malaysians are not simply content cows! We fight how we choose to fight. Some go on the streets to protest, some write it out, some go passive and carpool. So stop bitching about how Malaysians react. We do react in our own ways, it's just that you think the only way to protest something is by going to the streets.
Posted by: aput83
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January 8, 2007 08:22 AM
Someone from behind raised this l'il, low cost, rhymy banner: TOL NAIK, TOLAK BN
Posted by: balow
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January 8, 2007 08:23 AM
It was also my first protest ever! I saw Jeff busy clicking away.
I also overheard an old lady and a man telling each other that it was their first ever street protest. Something must be damn wrong (with current government) for normal citizens like us to take to the street.
I hope the Anti-Toll Coalition would organize it in IOI Mall which is more relevant as Puchong residents are hit hard by this nonsense.
Posted by: draco
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January 8, 2007 08:36 AM
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Posted by: BaganSPU
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January 8, 2007 09:22 AM
Think it's right to say sorry for the comment above. Just that being there responding in a peaceful ways speaks so much louder than commenting or in a written form because numbers send out a clear message to the present government, that this is the number representing citizens that are not happy with the way they are administered.
It's a sign of unity to support a certain cause.
Like attending a concert, you show up to show support to an artiste..u don't put it in a written form to support an artiste..perhaps you do but it does not count as much.
Posted by: Kayanbutter
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January 8, 2007 09:45 AM
There is no point to be feeling offended really. Those protests in Jakarta are really just for a show nowadays. Most of those young men parading Jl Sudirman are jobless anyway. Even with so much demo, nothing is changed in Indonesia. Do we wanna let our side follow their footstep? Don't feel offended really. Even Indonesians are starting to see those demo as a nuisance.
Posted by: azk
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January 8, 2007 10:00 AM
it was peaceful and very unlike Jakarta. Yes there was some commotion towards the end but that was it. The FRU was the one that blocked the road.
The police could have given a permit and have this more organised but will they do that. The location was not bad actually, nothing much the police can do as it is a public place and the crowd is there at the malls.
Overall a good experience for a 1st timer like me and one who vote for Pak Lah in 2004...yeah lah what to do, kena Temberang by Pak Lah. sigh!
Posted by: rocky
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January 8, 2007 10:02 AM
If i'am the protest Organizer. I will follow the South KOREAN menthod of protest.
1) Sit down for hours, while shouting in unison.
2)Then stand up and attack the FRU...Korean style.
P/S: Don't associate the protest with Indon, associate it with Korean. Good for the Image.
JEFF OOI says: Talk is cheap. You weren't even there yesterday, were you? Stop that crap of "If I were the protest Organiser..." And take this from me, Malaysians shouldn't seek justice through violence. When you suggest attacking the FRU, I say you are crap.
Posted by: IAmAlien
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January 8, 2007 10:06 AM
well said Jeff.
Why should we attack the FRU etc.
We can do it our way, no need to be theKorean or Indonesian way. Look at how we got our independence compared to Indonesia!!!
Posted by: rocky
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January 8, 2007 11:01 AM
aput83, I respect that you have your reasonings why you didn't agree with the toll-hike protest. You have some valid points. Would you participate the next time another demo is called for, if it's in right location? We all can help by contributing, perhaps by working together with anti-toll coalition and telling them, "hey, let's do it at these locations instead". But I feel you should at least give it a chance instead of disagreeing with it because of the location of yesterday's protest.
I don't think the only way to fight is going to the streets, but I don't think we should stick to one way either. How long have people have been writing? How many people do you know car pool? Does that help the issues at hand? It's just a show of unity. Not asking for aggressive protest. However, it's good that you point out that you fight your own way too, at least you are doing something.
Azk, not all the protest in Jakarta are for show. Then may I know why you are sad that 'we're turning into another Jakarta'?
Posted by: The Doctor's Muse
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January 8, 2007 11:27 AM
was there as a photographer; not from any organisation.
met mr jeff.
IMHO, it was an eye opener for someone who never been/photograph any protest before..
- hafiz
Posted by: hafizismail
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January 8, 2007 11:36 AM
The Doctor's Muse, if you can answer this, maybe you will know why.
Tell me which demo on Jl Sudirman or at those embassies managed to change a thing?
Posted by: azk
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January 8, 2007 12:00 PM
Location is perfect. Shoppers mixed with protestors else we'll be tackled by the FRU earlier and with water guns. I was there from 3.30pm and it is an excellent and peaceful way of the rakyat showing their rights. I sense fear in the gomen for the coming election.
Posted by: 3rd Generation
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January 8, 2007 12:02 PM
3rd Generation's not making any sense with the location, because it could have been done in KL with the same reasoning.
Try again.
Posted by: aput83
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January 8, 2007 12:14 PM
Exactly aput, we should do the same again at similar location in future.
Posted by: 3rd Generation
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January 8, 2007 12:23 PM
One comment, some protestors apparently brought their children along.
May I suggest that street protests are not suitable for children to be at.
One, they certainly are not involved in the politics or the issues. Parading them for a education issue, maybe. For a toll-hike? Totally unrelated.
Two, legitimate protestors do not need to use human shields.
Posted by: VigilantReason
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January 8, 2007 12:55 PM
Would you participate the next time another demo is called for, if it's in right location?
I'll prepare bandages, dry clothes and towels for anyone who needs it whenever that happens, and I think more people need to consider the aftermath once the police reacts, and prepare these supplies just as well.
Set up locations to gather once the police break it up, so that the wounded can be treated, and those who show signs (colored water is used in the water cannons sometimes) of taking part in the protests can be covered up.
Posted by: aput83
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January 8, 2007 01:15 PM
The protest is not to immediately force the government to close the tolls using brute force(fight FRU??) or to awaken samy vellu's self-conscious.
It is to show to the people that many of us are disagreeing with what the government doing. Mind you, there are a lot of people who don't go online and reads only newspaper/TV(and thus don't know about it). The protest is a good way to tell them.
Posted by: Steve
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January 8, 2007 01:47 PM
aput,
the location was in Sunway cos of LDP/Litrak. Downtown KL is not where the people are on Sunday. Fuel price protest at KLCC is good cos all people are effected and the crowd is there. LDP uses are in Subang, Puchong, Sunway.
Next protest is Gombak on the 14th. Will you be there???
Posted by: rocky
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January 8, 2007 02:46 PM
..and who's office will you be protesting in front of this time?
Plus? Metramac?
Or are you targeting shopping malls now?
Posted by: aput83
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January 8, 2007 02:51 PM
" We cannot be speakers who do not listen. But neither can we be listeners who do not speak."
Good points.
Posted by: Michael Lee
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January 8, 2007 03:31 PM
" We cannot be speakers who do not listen. But neither can we be listeners who do not speak
...and just where exactly did you get that brilliant piece..?
Posted by: aput83
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January 8, 2007 03:35 PM
Tell me which demo on Jl Sudirman or at those embassies managed to change a thing?,
I think not all protests in Indonesia are trivial, political or religious related. Some touch mis-administration, environmental issues, some (specifically) highlight the plight of affected factory workers, squatter children being evicted and losing chance to continue schools etc.
Perhaps in most of these protest, the main aim is to highlight the grievances and create awareness. With that in mind, what you view as 'changing a thing' depends on the context of those demos in the first place. It might not change anything if you talk about big issues like US occupancy in Iraq, but I'm sure there are a few minor ones which managed to be highlighted by some street protests.
I wouldn't want to say an example is the 1998 Revolution which toppled Suharto, but small ones like in 2004 when the government cancelled the proposed phone price hike after protests around Indonesia.
yes, not all demos in Jakarta are right (although this is debatable since I'm putting my own values and opinions), but not all are wrong either. And like most of us here, I don't agree with violent demonstrations.
So why does it make what happened yesterday to be seen as us 'turning into another Jakarta'? - Tak perlulah jawab dengan another soalan. Because I'm a bit slow.
My point is, yesterday's protest I think is not about trivial matters. We should give it a chance as another medium of expressing ourselves so the powers that be know that we want proper administration and running of the country and not corruption. Yes, the protest has it flaws, but we don't need detractors - that's the government's job. We try lah and 'usaha' through our peaceful ways.
Posted by: The Doctor's Muse
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January 8, 2007 04:49 PM
Protest like Korean? You are not even a Korean...
Posted by: jeffdaman
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January 8, 2007 09:52 PM
aput,
Don't NATO. Find out the info and go on the 14th..where there is a will, theer is a way. I'm not an organiser. anyway show up and than share your experience with us.
Just do it!!!
Posted by: rocky
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January 8, 2007 11:46 PM
rocky,
typical...when they can't provide information they go and promote Nike.
at least give me an URL on where to get the information.
Posted by: aput83
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January 9, 2007 08:17 AM