Election laws outdated: Democracy put on test
January 8, Election Commission(EC) chairman Ab Rashid Ab Rahman pushed for the setting up of an independent commission to review of the election laws so that it can uphold the democratic process of fair and transparent elections.
He said: "There is a need to update the current system because the old laws are lacking in many things and thus we cannot deliver what the people want today - free and fair elections."
He said the election laws had not been altered for the past 50 years despite the country having undergone tremendous changes in its social order and its development. Among the changes sought by the EC are letting the commission have the authority to decide on the formation of political parties and their freedom to participate in elections.
January 9, PM Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said: "Let him tell me what he wants."
Meanwhile, Opposition parties and non-governmental organisations welcome EC's suggestion to institute "a more transparent and neutral" election system.
Will change take place before the next General Election?
Comments
An independent EC?
An independent ACA?
A go-ahead with IPCMC?
An Independent Judiciary?
etc..
Not exactly in that order, but the things we look forward to, keep adding up. And the responses in typical style (almost always expected) also keeps varying with the current: ""Let him tell me what he wants." ... or "Tell me the truth"... etc. And we keep craning our necks, waiting in anticipation and keep hoping to see some real action. While the waves (of crime and corruption)are getting larger. We want to work with you but where are your actions? Will it finally be another 'too little too late' situation? When the flood waters are above our noses?
Posted by: LC_Teh
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January 10, 2007 07:54 AM
YAWN. soon, pak lah will say, i already asked you guys to tell me mah...but it's just my first term, give me some more time, maybe another term...
jeff taiko, is the net like superduper bad because some higher power trying to sabotage blogs?
Posted by: freelunch2020
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January 10, 2007 08:34 AM
this can be a really delicate matter. they can update and improve the election laws...TO THEIR ADVANTAGE! so, if changes were to be made, there must be complete tranparency and independent.
but looks like there is no independent at all, because to change the election laws, you need the PM approval. lol... you think he will do something detrimental to him or do something that will cement his power?
always remember - this is malaysia.
and btw, if you have not read... (a bit out of topic here) badak wee has came out and justisfy the toll hike!!
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/1/10/nation/16520131&sec=nation
he said government can't be subsidising everything.
we would like to ask, what about the RM11 billion used to bailed out cronies companies??? whoa... nia mah..think we stupid is it??
and the main question here is not government subsidy, but IS THE AGREEMENT ITSELF!!! we don't give a shit if the government subsidised or not, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHY SUCH LOPSIDED AGREEMENT is signed??
and the way they allow the toll to increase without any reasonable reason.
or perhaps badak wee do not know that Litrak agreement was leaked??? since he was on holiday before that...????
no matter what...we can confirm few things...
THIS PM LACK INTELLIGENCE !! (sorry yah, talking as if i'm very intelligent. if i am, i wouldn't be commenting here. lolz)
and CONFIRM HE IS SLEEPING AT HIS JOB!!!
Posted by: taiko_besar
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January 10, 2007 08:51 AM
This is coming from the guy who said in the last GE that all is fair? Who is he trying to kid?
Posted by: ordinaryperson
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January 10, 2007 09:23 AM
This does implied that the past general elections has not been "free and fair" as it should have been, inasmuch it is a very much welcome statement for greater transparency and fairness for the future ones.
Posted by: twotablet
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January 10, 2007 09:30 AM
Isn't EC is supposed to be independet in the first place? Now, this chairman fella wants another "independent commission" to review the election laws? Does anyone smells a rat here?
Posted by: ordinaryperson
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January 10, 2007 09:32 AM
they memang pandai main wayang la... who they think they are kidding???
Posted by: taiko_besar
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January 10, 2007 09:45 AM
If you want reforms, then this is not the government that you should choose.
Reforms will only come from a totally new regime. The new regime will then change the system to their advantage.
Will microsoft give away their codes to users? Will nestle give away their mee curry recipe to consumers? No as they have to protect their own turf.
Posted by: sydput
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January 10, 2007 11:12 AM
Will change take place before the next General Election?
I have my doubts. There will be talk, but no real change will take place.
Posted by: aput83
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January 10, 2007 11:28 AM
Mr. aput,
The right question we should ask ourselves is, "What kind of change will I make?".
I did not vote for BN, and I'll continue to do so. Also, I've told my family and friends to do the same. But will you?
The same question I'll ask many who complained and whine about how rotten BN is. In the end, action speaks louder than words. Will you still vote for these BN clowns, knowing that they have screwed the rakyat, and they probably continue to do so?
Will you stand by your decision in not voting them despite the last minute goodies they dish out to you plus the many empty election promises they made?
Remember they compared Pak Lah with the legendary Justice Pao in the last election? It made me puke! But I think many people fell for that.
Posted by: ordinaryperson
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January 10, 2007 11:53 AM
Whoaaaa...they compare Badawi to Justice Pao??? what the heck!! they are shaming the name of Justice Pao!!!
I represent all the chinese in malaysia, all the kings and queens of the past dynasties of China...all the good judges...all the good Chinese men...past present and future condemn this comparison!!
Posted by: taiko_besar
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January 10, 2007 12:10 PM
That's why, the ad made me puke. Yucks!
Poor Justice Pao. His name has been used and abused.
Posted by: ordinaryperson
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January 10, 2007 12:24 PM
ordinaryperson,
I will vote the one whose ideology is similar to mine. In the case of Shah Alam, I will not vote for PAS because they don't suit my beliefs.
However, a vote for UMNO would mean that I agree with the recent flooding in Shah Alam in 2006 as 'an act of God', whereas I believe they could have done more. And judging by the landslide near the mosque which has either gone unnoticed or undealt with, they don't actually give a damn about the anti dengue campaign.
So I'll attend their talks, and see how they can lure others, bring up my grouses, and finally vote for the one who I believe will get things done.
That's how I decide.
Posted by: aput83
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January 10, 2007 03:46 PM
When we all queue up for the ballot box, it will be how each one interprets what we hear, see or read in the mass media. And it will be also who stand before us as candidates (after the manipulations and maneuvers have been done). Still the majority will most probably be cornered into accepting the ones who speak the loudest, most persistently and repeat those same old lines most convincingly.
Perhaps most of us who have access to alternative views may be able to decide and vote wisely to increase the opposition's voice. But that definitely will not be enough.
To hope for change to come from the people in power will be like hoping to squeeze blood out of stone. They will not let go. And that's the reality.
The question is: How do we influence the masses via this alternative route (SMS or other means? the answer is in our handphones?) so that we can change their mindset to let go of the trunk, go out on the limb, and give the opposition a bigger mandate, at least to have some check and balance to reduce the excesses of the current govt. We need to harness People Power. We need to raise the will to find a way. Or we just keep sinking deeper.
Posted by: LC_Teh
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January 10, 2007 05:07 PM
Mr. aput,
I can understand your predicament. For someone like yourself, there isn't much choice btwn BN & PAS, is there?
Sometimes, I'd blame the situation on our education system which spoonfed us to become mindless and gullible individuals. Coupled with the controlled mainstream media, BN has it in full circle to ensure victory election after election, regardless how badly the rakyat are treated.
Our mind were not taught to be critical & inquisitive enough from young. Frankly, we are made to become "lazy-minded".
Can't you see that we need to have a strong opposition, just to make sure that the ruling party to will have to think twice before doing something to rob the government coffers? The ruling party will have to be constantly on their toes just to ensure that they are not blasted by the opposition in parliment. But because of the over-whelming majority in the 2004 GE, or constant 2/3 majority in other GEs, BN have no regards for the interest of the rakyat but their own pocket & cronies. They do not have the interest of the rakyat at heart. Just look at how those local councils behave, like Datuk Z, and you'll get the idea.
Still think that BN will somehow have a change of heart by having the rakyat's interest at heart for a change? It'll be easier for someone to have a successful heart by-pass operation.
Posted by: ordinaryperson
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January 10, 2007 05:42 PM
When the EC chiarman said: "There is a need to update the current system because the old laws are lacking in many things and thus we cannot deliver what the people want today - free and fair elections", he inadvertently also said "all previous elections are flawed"!
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Posted by: Observer
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January 10, 2007 11:39 PM
ordinaryperson,
I won't support PAS, because I am not exactly the most conservative Muslim. I pretty much consider myself a liberal, in which what I do is between me and God, and they can warn me, and advise me, but it is a basic human right that I can do what I want to do to myself, as long as I bring no harm to others.
And you don't have to blame the education system either. I may have spent 16 years being brainwashed to support the government by numerous people and yet I still firmly stand by my beliefs.
I am all for a stronger opposition in Malaysia, but if the opposition is made of people who cannot differentiate rock music from black metal, who raid nightspots and terrorise those they catch, send out e-mails on how I cannot wish my Hindu friends Happy Deepavali, demolished a turtle sculpture in Terengganu for being un-Islamic, changed the name of PCB in Kelantan because it's un-Islamic, who take videos of people making out and post them on Youtube, who believe women and how they dress are to be blamed for a guy not knowing to control his lust...
well, if these are the Opposition members you are talking of, you can count me out.
I will not support anything that I consider wrong, and these acts that PAS and its members have wrought are damn wrong in my personal view.
Posted by: aput83
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January 11, 2007 12:07 AM
There is no difference which political party wins the election if the mentality of the majority portion of the rakyat is so corrupted. Waiting to be spoon fed, know-who but not know-how economy, protection from competition..
If we democratic, why ISA and media control? Raja Berperlembagaan? What's that?
Sometimes, things have to be destroyed to change.
Posted by: azk
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January 11, 2007 12:32 AM
mmm...the individual say something, but will something happens? I bet a comment, it is personal view, not a view by the authorities in charge. Dream on.
Posted by: barney flinstone
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January 11, 2007 01:28 AM
more or less agree with aput, PAS got to change their ways and strict rules if they want support from the people. Sometimes you go too extreme it's very scary, most chinese will be scared out their hell. Some people will rather get sucked up dry by the BN rather than have to live haunted all their lives, worry about if you are being taped on a date, holding hands, being forced to wear tudung to school, compulsory islamic studies for children, stuffs like that you know... This is just an honest opinion.
Posted by: streetz
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January 11, 2007 10:41 AM
Mr. aput,
I understands your predicament. If i were in your constituency, i'd have a hard time casting my vote. It's a tough choice. Nonetheless, it's a choice we as voters have to make. At this rate, I guess, god knows if and when will Malaysia imporves for the better, and become comparable to other developed nations. We don't have to look far, just look as our neigbour down south will do. God bless Malaysia...
To all others, plz vote wisely. Don't get con by those conman or conwoman out there with sweet but empty promises. Remember BN's last GE slogan? And compare those promises to reality now. Wish you all the best out there.
Posted by: ordinaryperson
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January 11, 2007 10:43 AM
Let's put our hope on PKR, then. Support them, and hope that they will be strong enough to stand against UMNO. It's still a better alternative compared to PAS. Cheers.
Posted by: ordinaryperson
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January 11, 2007 10:49 AM
"Let's put our hope on PKR, then. Support them, and hope that they will be strong enough to stand against UMNO. It's still a better alternative compared to PAS. Cheers."
now that is one notion that I can stand for.
I sincerely hope that they can bring back the fighting spirit of Onn Jaafar, and not repeat the failed Parti Negara.
Posted by: aput83
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January 11, 2007 11:29 AM