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Folks

This Tiong Hiew King, he must be a pawn of MCA. Bloody disgrace.

Trying to ape Rupert Murchoch.

The media should be monopolised by any individual or political party.

Then the country becomes a dictatorship or a virtual communist state.

But the Mandarin-speaking Chinese in Malaysia are not that civic conscious to see the bigger picture. They are small-picture voters, more concerned about keeping the culture of lion dances instead of the longer term socio economic interest of the Malaysian Chinese community.

NO! NO! NO!

If fact, no one person or party be it political or otherwise should have total control of the media be it the Press, TV, Radio, etc - this includes the domination of a or all of, a particular type of vernacular media.

This may create a possibility of (someone or some party) controlling the freedom of speech and the denial of hearing the truth.

if only u cud translate the items above then it'd be easier for me to find out if i could agree with it or not...

but i also find it weird why u shud consider a screenshot blackout to oppose the supposedly potential strangulation of free media...

sounds like self strangulation..

no bro continue writing in screenshots!

I am inclined to speculate (as one commenter has noted that this Tiong Hiew King is monopolising the Chinese Dailies AND that he is somewhat an MCA pawn; put two and two together.

And what do we have? A controlled press which does the bidding of a particular party; which in the worst case scenario maybe the tool of propaganda of spreading racial divisiveness/hate/ etc etc.

"But the Mandarin-speaking Chinese in Malaysia are not that civic conscious to see the bigger picture. They are small-picture voters, more concerned about keeping the culture of lion dances instead of the longer term socio economic interest of the Malaysian Chinese community."

You have a spot on point in this matter. It is the Chinese way of "keeping to one's side of the picket fence" aka "jaga tepi kain sendiri". THEY do know of the issues but are too meek to speak up for issues that matter to not only their welfare but for their community on the whole. Perhaps there isn't much of proper channels for them to voice their opinions?

How come nobody seem to object about the monopoly of some 'revered' politician upon the Tamil language newspapers in Malaysia or don't the Malaysian Indians give a damn? I think they just give a damn.

Any form of monopoly in any field is objectionable. More so in the very very sensitive media market which is supposed to function as public opinion merket.

Actually, despite selling of the controlling stakes in Nanynag to Sinchew's boss, MCA has decided to hold on to 20& of Nanyang as what they call strategic stake.

However, against monopoly in chinese media is one thing. But, equally important is: any chinese businessman who is resourceful and trusted by the chinese community is interested to come forward to buy up Nanyang shares?

May be, if there is no other offeror to buy up Nanynag, MCA should buy back the controlling stake from sinchew's boss and continue to hold on Nanyang and act as broker again, until that some one turn up to buy Nanyang. Any way, don't you think this the least MCA can do "salvage" its image a little bit?

I don't get you, Jeff.

"There will be no updates of Screenshots in the next three
days.

This is a way of lending my support to the readers of Chinese
newspapers nationwide who object to the monopoly of Chinese
Press..."

Just how does it lend your support?

If you say "monopoly kills media independence", and yet you silence one of the channels which is helping the fight for media independence for 3 days, how does that help?

If there was some newsworthy development with respect to the monopoly of Chinese media, and you chose not to post it on Screenshots - in support of the objection to the monopoly - is that 'lending support'? Or more like NOT lending support?

Perhaps you may want to figure out a better way of 'lending support' ?

I am not sure what is the real background of this 'buying' up of all the other chinese newspaer in malaysia.

But I do have problem with globalization. YOU don't know who is taking over your life. People that flashed with money would just come in and BUY, mostly for monetary profit. No interest on what is good or bad for the people.

If we allow things to go that way, one day you might wake up, and everything looks, feels and sounds like CNN or Fox news or any equavalent to these media giants.

As I have mentioned time and again ... one point in time I thought globalization would bring happinesss to the less fortunate. These days I loath globalization. And you might just want to look at this issue as yet another evil of GLOBALIZATION.

thesun keeps playing the same issue against khir toyo. they have big agenda to thrown out the mb. shame on vincent tan.

but at least we know that MB Toyo has erred in his duties and Sun is doing us all a favor.

Speaking of monopoly of media, does Media Prima fall into this category?

Didn't heard any news about it before. May it's cause of I don't read Chinese newspaper. Anyway, is there anyway for us, blogger, to do anything to object this? Like having some buttons or banner.

If you say "monopoly kills media independence", and yet you silence one of the channels which is helping the fight for media independence for 3 days, how does that help?

It helps by showing the uneducated on how damaging our country is in a 1984-like situation.

Although I have to agree, there is no (less?) point (strength?) in silencing yourself NOW, as there are not enough sebabs to do so (other than the fact that Malaysia is quickly approaching US - to be a totalitarian state).

Welcome to 1984, Malaysia! Your neighbours are Iraq and US, enjoy your stay! Oh, and we will be watching you.

And can someone translate the chinese text for us ah? Or wanna leave us in the dark? :(

Dear Jeff,

Don't you think that you should mention Oriental Daily?

Subscribing to Oriental Daily is what we can do to fight monopoly.

The market power is strong. It can topple a newspaper empire, just like what the Chinese community did to Nanyang after they boycotted Nanyang for being controled by MCA.

This is the URL to Oriental Daily. Have fun

http://www.orientaldaily.com.my/index.asp

If 3 days for the chinese newspapers, than why not already at least a week for the TV Monopoly in Malaysia??
TV1-2 government
TV3,NTV7,TV9 all in one hand and this is also a proxy for the government.

So lets have a one week protest for free tv in Malaysia.
The country that has the worst TV programs of all the nations around us!

dof
I don't care if The Sun has an agenda or not. Khir Toyo does not show that he is really leading Selangor anyway. One minute he declares Selangor a fully developed state, the next, (see today's papers) a 'developing state'. This was to support his contention that State Assemblymen should sit on local councils as it made development easier. Nonsense. If making it easier means that the same person can sit on committees at different levels and ask for things, then approve them himself, as was reported about Datuk Z last week, then something smells very strange. It's about time someone pointed out to him that the feudal past is precisely that... the past. One benefit of the NEP is that there are many more educated people (of all races) and therefore a much wider pool of people from whom to select (or preferably elect) our councillors.
To look at Klang specifically, if one goes round the town, into the housing areas, you will see the potholed roads, the ill-maintained sidetables, the cracked and broken, clogged drains, and the floods when it rains. The money all goes to the friends with lighting companies and landscaping firms to build unnecessary ornaments which add little to the efficiency of the town, and certainly do nothing to improve the traffic or drainage systems. Where is the bridge linking the end of Jln Nanas to Jln Tepi Sungei which was supposed to be built as per the structure plan of some 20 years ago? They have their grand MKP offices, but no parking if you need to go and do business there, which is presumably the idea.
Sorry, Jeff, I got carried away. The mention of the MB got me back on to the old thing about councils & Datuk Z which you've already archived. Many apologies.

I cannot understand what all the fuss is about? tiong has made a bad investment.
Think HP compaq merger. Bad for sharehoders. which means tiong will lose money in term of share depreciation. What a bad move.

Folks

My view about protests.

In Malaysia, protests don't work and do not produce results. They are symbolisms. Symbolisms are meaningless in those in power and influence in Malaysia. You think this Tiong Hiew King guy cares a damn about protest in silence?

Protests work if there is a hint that those with influence and power are willing to listen. Those who in power don't listen are called Dictators and the regime is called Communist.

Tell me which protest works in Malaysia. Public protests against govt (read :against UMNO) is considered anti-national, unpatriotic, subversive, against national security, and are tickets to Kamunting compliments of Bukit Aman sponsored by ISA.

Only protests BY Umno Youth and UMNO carry weight in Malaysia. Case example: When UMNO Youth protests against Malaysiakini 3 years ago, Bukit Aman became concerned, not with UMNO Youth, but with Malaysiakini and the Bukit Aman boys raided Malaysiakini and confiscated 19 computers.

When UMNO Youth held anti Chinese rallies in 1987 in TPCA Stadium, who got arrested under Operations Lallang. It wasn't Najib and his racist taunt who were hauled up, but the Opposition members and others.

Symbolisms are self-therapeutic mechanisms.

In Malaysia, it has to be an in-your-face protest. "Bagi Muka" means "Bagi Muka" in a literal sense, so why should they care about it if you "Bagi Muka" to show symbolic protest.

Take a citizens action to stop this monopoly. Call for boycott, keep the issue alive etc.

Unfortunately, blogs, by nature of its infrastructure, have SHORT memories, and issue get forgotten by the third day as new issues are being fried to taste to last only at best 2 days in blogosphere.

sydput, perhaps Chinese adverb will enlighten you : People willing to kill for profitable business.

FYI, political link business can be gain profit from "indirect channel".

Frank & Honest
You are absolutely right. Look back through the archives and see how many protests there are about all sorts of worthy topics, and see how long they have kept going? As soon as the issue disappears off the front page (be it blog or newspaper) it is as good as dead. interesting thing is, it's usually something else worthy of protesting about that has pushed the issue off the front page! Do we as individuals have the capacity to balance doing something to improve everything that needs working on? Probably not. so that's why we have 'semua OK!'
and once again, the guilty go free.

Yes Say NO to Monopoly in ANY Media and NO to Protests. But there are groups of people sowing ill-will through SMS rumours (a new media?). The latest incident stating that 600 muslim student from a Politeknik would be converted by Dato Azhar Mansor (the famous solo yatchman who sailed solo round the world and supposed to be an apostate) asked protesters to go to the Church. There were tensions. More details and pictures from:
http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2006/11/more-pics-sms-about-baptism-ceremony.html

mwt

The police and the Islamic Dept say they are going to find the culprit who started this SMS.

Yes lets hope they DO... and if they do and find that the culprit is an UMNO YOUTH member, lets REALLY HOPE they find the culprit and charge him for creating religious disharmony. You think they will DO that? I doubt it. Even if they do,they will keep this investigation on until close to next election and they start rumours will spread it is started by PAS... scare mongering to win Govt again!!!

Frank&Honest,

"But the Mandarin-speaking Chinese in Malaysia are not that civic conscious to see the bigger picture. They are small-picture voters, more concerned about keeping the culture of lion dances instead of the longer term socio economic interest of the Malaysian Chinese community."

You belittled the whole Mandarin-speaking Chinese community with such certainty. Amazing, I'm sure a civic conscious people wouldn't say thing like you. So, have you subscribe to any Chinese newspaper? What is your understanding of all the activities of the Mandarin-speaking Chinese community? I can see that your understanding is "keeping the culture of lion dances". And also, what is your understanding of the history and culture of the Chinese? Can you tell just roughly and in order of all the dynasties of China 4000 years history? This is the basic test of your understanding of chinese culture.

I subscribe to SinChew, The Edge, The Economists. From your posts her all this while, i can tell with absolute certainty that there are many writers and columnists of the chinese newspaper have more civic consciousness then you.

Anyway, i have to admit that my english is not as good as you. But i always feel superior when i read something like what you have written here.

kt

You just confirmed and proven my point.

What has my knowledge of the order of dynasties of ancient China (not even the land of my birth) of 4,000 years got to do with my understanding of Chinese culture.

Who cares about whether Xia dynasty came first or after Song, Han or Western Zhou dynasties, or Emperor Qian Long was a Ming or a Manchu, to the survival of modern day Chinese community or to Malaysian Chinese community of today struggling to get their children education in US or UK so that they can also read the Economist.

Malaysian Chinese newspapers are as parochial as the Malay vernacular papers, only the script used is different. Reading Malaysian Chinese newspapers don't me any more smarter or more knowledgeable of the world today or of the issues facing the Malaysian Chinese community.

To paraphrase you, I have to add that Chinese including Malaysian Chinese especially has that bad habit of ethno-egoism in which they feel superior than others just because they are able to master more than 1,000 chinese characters. Yet the information revolution came to the planet from the 26 alphabets of the English language.

To the Chinese, everybody is a Kwei or Kui except the Chinese, and China is the only Middle Kingdom of human beings between the other Kingdoms of Hell and Heaven.

You have just proven my point when I said about small-picture people.

Jeff, you're getting personal, don't cha?

You're an independent blogger, why indulge (which is an understatement to "initiate") in this?

Frank&Honest,

How you know MCA is behind this??? Talk is cheap.

jeffadaman

You said....How you know MCA is behind this??? Talk is cheap.

Show me otherwise

@frank&honest

I guess the proof of burden is on you, not on jeffadaman.

By the way, while some Chinese are indeed parochial, it's overboard to describe all Chinese as "only concerned about keeping the lion dance culture" or people who "have that bad habit of ethno-egoism in which they feel superior than others just because they are able to master more than 1,000 chinese characters".

You realize you are making a terrible generalization, like those politicians that you are always condemning?

changyang1230

I did not say ALL chinese....

Yes I did generalise about the Mandarin speaking Chinese in Malaysia. But that generalisation is NOT far from the truth.

Nothing wrong with generalisations. Statistics generalise. Whether one agrees or not, is a matter of strong opinions.

Truth hurts but it is better spill it out into the open, especially when young chinese kids get brainwashed through the language such as, " everybody is a Kwei or Kui except the Chinese, and China is the only Middle Kingdom of human beings between the other Kingdoms of Hell and Heaven." That is learnt in the dialects of hokkien, cantonese, hakka and putonghua.

How do chinese derogatively about others eg Malays, Indians, Westerners etc in the various dialects. That sense of ethnic uperiority is disgusting, to say the least, while clamoring that the chinese are discriminated in real terms.

I don't think I am too far wrong in the generalisation of Mandarin speaking chinese in malaysia.

Haiyoh, Frank&Honest, here you go again....

@Frank&Honest

It should be "burden of proof" in my previous message. Sorry for the typo, exams are killing my neurons.

Nothing wrong with generalisations. Statistics generalise. Whether one agrees or not, is a matter of strong opinions.

You said it yourself, statistics generalize - that's because statistics is backed up by rigorous data collection which represents the observation in the population. It's entirely different when you put forth an generalization without any proof. An opinion does not worth half of real statistics.

Show me an unbiased statistics and I will concur with this generalization. Any other generalization remains personal opinion and observation.

" everybody is a Kwei or Kui except the Chinese, and China is the only Middle Kingdom of human beings between the other Kingdoms of Hell and Heaven."

Coming from one of the most "chinese-educated" background, this is surprisingly new to me. The "kwei" derogative term is indeed used by many, but it's not taught.

The usage of "kwei" is part of the vestige from the older generation's thoughts. To survive through the hardship in the early days, they developed xenophobia and self-glamorisation which contributed to racism and superiority thought. Yes, I agree this doesn't make it right, but I would also say it's understandable.

Today when you are referring to Westeners in Hokkien, you can say "ang moh" or "ang moh kui" (red haired ghost) or "ang moh sai" (red haired shit) etc. I use only the term "ang moh" instead of the others. Most of my Chinese friends do it too.

When you are referring to Malay people in Hokkien, it's "huan na" - and many people, even Hokkiens themselves don't consciously realize that it means "the barbaric / uncivilised people". However, there are indeed many other derogative terms for Malay like "huan na gui" (malay ghost), "huan na sai" (malay shit), "huan na tu" (malay pig) etc. Yes, I have heard them all occasionally from my relatives and friends. For me personally though, "huan na" is used, because it's the most universal hokkien term in Malaysia, and there's no other term that I can use yet remain understandable to others.

My point is, yes, those superiority thoughts exist and some derogative terms are still being used by some. But just because I use the term "huan na" doesn't mean I think my race is superior to others or that Malay people are uncivilized. I don't despise or dislike Malay people at all, the word usage is because it's already become a hokkien term, and most don't even realize it means barbaric people.

But that doesn't mean you can make a generalization to "chinese speaking people" based on your partial observation of "kwei" or "middle kingdom".

You didn't say "all mandarin-speaking chinese", but without qualifiers like "many" or "some", it simply implies a generalization - a partial one at that. Such qualification may be true to some extent, but they serve no purpose except to stir up emotion, perpetrate misunderstanding and promote racism.

Such a comment also isn't much different than saying "Malays are dumber than Chinese".

Frank&Honest,

Not bad, at least you can tell some of the dynasties name. But, with google, we can get these few pieces of info. in just few minutes right? Anyway it shows that you put in effort to learn something, that's great. That's the reason why we argue here, to know what we don't know.

When you said "the Mandarin-speaking Chinese in Malaysia are not that civic conscious to see the bigger picture. They are small-picture voters, more concerned about keeping the culture of lion dances".
Everyone would expect you to know deeply the activities of the Mandarin-speaking community and the chinese culture. If not how dare anybody say something like that and think that he is more "big-picture" minded than anyone in a community? Unless he is "small-picture people" but don't know and think that he is "big-picture people".So, my question was relevant.

You are not only good in generalizing but also good in confusing people by dragging in lots of not relevant stuffs into an argument. So, i don't want to argue with you the KuiLou stuff.

My question is just the above. Even you are really deeply understand the mandarin-speaking community and the chinese culture, with the above kind of statement, it shows that either you hates the community due to some reasons or you want to show how "big-picture" you are compare with others and to show how courageous you are in facing the truth. Either way, you don't really try to understand a community.
I'm very afraid to use the word truth, cause its just too heavy for me and i'm just an ordinary guy of fresh and blood.

Below are not related to our argument, but more of what i want to say.

It is totally not a problem and no need to be ashamed at all of demanding one's right, and hence one's cultural and language rights, as long as they are align with the universal values of human rights, even that's lion dance and with "small-picture" minded. So, start demands that from our government, as that would make up the rights of the community and the rights of the people of this country and not the other way round.

I'm a "small-picture" minded person and would continue to demand all my rights of lion dance and language usage and would "small-picture" mindedly think that that would contribute to the improvement of the rights of the people and the "long-term socio culture and economic interest" of the country.

I'm just too "small-picture" minded to think of the "big" interest of the country FIRST.

Fank&Honest, let me know what i miss out here. Perhaps you can help to correct it.

Offtopic :

Frank&Honest,
It is unfortunate your perception represent most of the view of non-mandarin speaking people.

IMHO, it is because of misunderstanding about human behaviour of regionisation and lack of information about other language speaking people.

About regionisation discrimination, it is all about human behaviour . E.g. urban people discriminate on farmer, outer regions vs inner regions, etc. Don't forget that once upon a time in USA(before US independent), UK people view people in US as outcast.

While on technical study, do you know that most of the technical books and bestseller are translated to mandarin ASAP? Do you know that China are the kingdom of "pirates" English technical and bestseller book translation.

In Taiwan, local writers wrote book about political/human rights as early as 70's and it is thrive in 80's.

Frank&Honest,

You have made a statement, now it's your turn to stick with it.

On November 4, 2006 12:30 PM, Frank&Honest said:

"Folks

This Tiong Hiew King, he must be a pawn of MCA. Bloody disgrace.

Trying to ape Rupert Murchoch.

The media should be monopolised by any individual or political party."

Now just answer this simple question from your statement: How you know MCA is behind this???

Don't forget from your statement.

stop the intra racial bashing larr...
why are you hijacking Jeff's topic?

This is about media monopoly and you take this opportunity to bash Chinese speaking chinese.
It is ashame that the Chinese society is not united, divided into class E (english speaking) and class C (chinese speaking) that kick each other forever. What is the point?

(IMO the best solution to this class E vs class C Chinese is through proper education creating class A society, where Chinese is able to master both English and Chinese to see 2 sides of the coin and resolve conflicts)

if you have nothing much to say keep quiet lah,
dont hijack Jeff's topic and create destructive comments and stir up unwanted negativity.

Didnt you guys read that the Chinese community boycotted nanyang after MCA bought the company? The Chinese is aware and they take action by switching their subscription to other newspapers.

changyang1230. kt, and moo_t, and Life Feel

I may not agree with you all on everything you said, but I do respect your position, opinions and your rebuttals to what I said on the small-picture section of the Mandarin speaking chinese in Malaysia.

Many of them I met, when talking about the weakness ofa the community facing the challenges in the country, and the parochial views of the Chinese media, tend to launch their patriotic (?) monologue on China's greatness, and the migraine-causing lectures on the chinese who first invented paper, gunpowder, and how smart the chinese before the western-barbarians learnt to have baths, blah..blah..

When you ask what should be the community's short term and long term strategies to address the community's concerns of today, eg education. scholarship, job opportunites, they looked blank, mouth gaping, and say..."let my children migrate overseas to live and start a new life".

chanyang 1230

Language define CULTURAL ATTITUDES and sets cultural norms. And Culture constructs perceptions of others.

So it is no excuse, whether it is from old generation, or that it was not taught deliberately. But the culture teaches the young to look at others by the language being used.

It is too ingrained in the language of the culture that use derogative words on others that I find most disgusting because it smacks of total cultural arrogance.

I will reply in a few days.. Damn 4 more lectures to prepare for tomorrow's exam and it's 11.30pm here. :P

F&H, before anything, may I kindly request you to answer to a few of the points raised above:

1. Didnt you guys read that the Chinese community boycotted nanyang after MCA bought the company? The Chinese is aware and they take action by switching their subscription to other newspapers.

Counter-proof to your "small-minded mandarin-speaking Chinese" theory.

2. This Tiong Hiew King, he must be a pawn of MCA. Bloody disgrace.

Trying to ape Rupert Murchoch.

Burden of proof.

3. When you ask what should be the community's short term and long term strategies to address the community's concerns of today, eg education. scholarship, job opportunites, they looked blank, mouth gaping, and say..."let my children migrate overseas to live and start a new life".

Tell me a culture where such people isn't in the majority. If you can't, then your statement isn't different from "I have met many cancer patients. Many of them are married. So I think cancer is kinda the consequence of the marriage."

Post hoc ergo propter hoc comes into picture.

Get a second life and don't reborn in Malaysia lah.

jeffdaman and Changyang1230

You ask ( and for burden of proof)....Now just answer this simple question from your statement: How you know MCA is behind this???

My response ?

Read below article in Straits Times, especially the LAST SENTENCE.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist or a Medical Student with Straight As studying in Melbourne UNi to draw the necessary conclusions from these articles.

Of course we can debate on this till the cows graduate with Univ degrees too.Or unless you want me to show you files,photocopies of evidence, statistical data for burden of proof...or to give you files most likely kept by the Bukit Aman chaps. This is not a medical exam paper for evidence to diagnose an obvious social disease the country is facing on the media laws.

One other pertinent fact below on his timber logging business in the Paciifc about this Tiong Hiew King who holds a Tan Sri/Datuk, probably sponsored by MCA if not his money.

Tiong Hiew King owns Rimbunan Hijau, the timber logging company that exploits with disastrous affect on the poor people of the Pacific countries, especially in Papua New Guinea.

See also below the Report by Green Peace on the corrupt practices of Rimbunan Hijau in Papua New Guinea.

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http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article-southeastasia.asp?parentid=55943 Click the link for more details

MALAYSIA: Debate over tycoon's newspaper monopoly
Chinese groups say press freedom will suffer after Tiong Hiew King's latest acquisition of two more major Chinese dailies

Straits Times
Saturday, October 21, 2006

By Leslie Lau

Kuala Lumpur --- The sale of Nanyang Press Holdings to timber tycoon Tiong Hiew King has sparked concerns among the Chinese community here over his near monopoly of the Chinese newspaper market.

Tan Sri Tiong, from Sarawak, this week added the publisher of Nanyang Siang Pau and China Press to his stable of Chinese newspapers worldwide.

Critics of the purchase are concerned that Tan Sri Tiong, 70, who also owns the top-selling Sin Chew Daily and Guangming Daily, now controls Malaysia's four major Chinese dailies.

His close association with the Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA), from which he bought Nanyang, has also raised concerns about the independence of the Chinese newspapers.

AND THIS....AND READ THE LAST SENTENCE BELOW. Click the link for details

http://www.cijmalaysia.org/display_story.asp?ID=425

MCA-Sin Chew’s Nanyang Deal underlines need for media laws reform

We, 45 multi-lingual and multiethnic civil society organizations working on diverse issues and political party strongly object to the Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA)'s sale of 21.02% shares in Nanyang Press to Ezywood Options, a company owned by Tan Sri Tiong Hiew King. This deal leaves MCA still controlling 23.38% of Nanyang Press and Tiong holding both 44.76% of the Chinese media conglomerate and Nanyang's rival Sin Chew Media Corporation Bhd.

That all top four Chinese dailies are now concentrated in the hand of a party-business alliance is detrimental to press freedom and democratic space in Malaysia . Such development calls for reforms in media laws including the repeal of Printing Presses and Publications Act and the introduction of anti-monopoly clauses.

The relatively independent and critical journalism of Chinese dailies are well known to Malaysians across linguistic, ethnic and religious lines. Such qualities were seriously compromised when Hong Leong Holdings was forced to sell Nanyang Press to the MCA investment arm, Huaren Holding, in 2001. This was after the Chinese press was blamed for the ruling coalition's defeat in the 2000 Lunas by-election. This takeover sparked widespread protest within the Chinese community, including boycott of the newspapers.

There have been concerns that the Nanyang takeover was the result of collaboration between MCA and the Sin Chew owner.

The Sin Chew group sidelined, censored and blacked out news of the takeover. On the day of takeover, the CEO of Sin Chew Daily groups resigned only to be immediately appointed by Huaren Holding as Nanyang Press's Chief Operation Officer. Since then, Tiong gradually acquired interest in Nanyang Press and by March 2006 controlled a total of 23% of stake through subsidiary companies and proxies.

The latest development confirms that MCA and Sin Chew are jointly controlling the Chinese print media.

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http://www.greenpeace.org/international/press/reports/RH-30years-forest-plunder

"...Rimbunan Hijau is responsible for many large scale destructive logging operations in countries across the Paradise Forests. It is amongst the leading timber giants in Malaysia, whilst in Papua New Guinea it has close to a monopoly on all logging operations in the country.

Frank&Honest

"Mandarin-speaking Chinese in Malaysia are not that civic conscious to see the bigger picture"

these no-so-civic-conscious chinese-speaking people made a Shu Qiu (Requisition)to government and the outcome? You know that better than I do.

Whenever chinese community raise their voices, they will get angry mob from UMNO. It is a fact!

40 years of history, one simple lesson learn "Shut your mouth!"

"You don't need to be a rocket scientist or a Medical Student with Straight As studying in Melbourne UNi to draw the necessary conclusions from these articles.

Of course we can debate on this till the cows graduate with Univ degrees too.Or unless you want me to show you files,photocopies of evidence, statistical data for burden of proof..."

good reply from a "bigger picture" person!

if you can't accept to hear other voices, don't post...

sorry Frank&Honest,

i have no right to ask you to shut up or keep quiet. i will apologize for this.

and Jeff,

we should no just say NO to monopoly to chinese media, let's say NO to monopoly to ALL media!

Frank&Honest,

Seems like you did a lot of searching here and there. But none of the report really justify your dead sure "This Tiong Hiew King, he must be a pawn of MCA. Bloody disgrace" claim.

Look at how the news use "concern" as there might not be 100% sure.

"There have been concerns that the Nanyang takeover was the result of collaboration between MCA and the Sin Chew owner."

Well, you might try the smoking gun theory, but then again you sound like knowing it for sure.

Hope you can shed more lights.

@F&H

Thanks for visiting my little blog, it's a great honour. I visited yours in return. :)

I am not as experienced as you in running commentary on politics, nor have I the great long-term, short-term strategies for the country's betterment, or the "biggest picture" view of the socio-economic viewpoint for the country and the community. I am still young with this regard, and I am still learning from everyone, including you. I need to learn how our society works, why it doesn't work, and what can we do about it.

But I hope that you do not showcase me the way to reach a conclusion and make generalization from partial observation - no matter how analytical and accurate you are. Thanks for bringing out my irrelevant biography, which may imply your respect or implicit disregard towards my political shallowness. But no matter how inexperienced or how young I am, I still know that making a generalization is bad. This is what I want to tell you as a young, unprejudiced person.

I thank you for your effort in providing those articles - they do shed some light on the issue. At least you are now corroborating your claim, and for that I thank you. I haven't done a thorough research so I am not in the position to talk about Tiong Hiew King yet.

But then again, I am still waiting eagerly for your claim on "small minded mandarin-speaking chinese community". You failed to reinforce your claim, and failed to answer all of the counter-proof above.

The way you generalized the whole community as disgusting by "a few people I met" was disgusting...

- You clearly don't know the content of Chinese medium newspaper. It is not as parochial as you thought, and no, they don't talk about China's greatness. They are purely concerned about the "larger picture" of the country. Go ask someone to translate its content to you, before you employ your shotgun blindly.

- That Nanyang's subscribers dropped drastically after MCA's acquisition is already a counter-proof to your "they only care about preserving lion dance culture".

- "Kwei" etc are not taught in school at all, it's ingrained in the Malaysian Chinese society. Don't tell me that english-speaking chinese community don't have this kind of xenophobic and racist thought, it's just that it's not shown in the language. The way you attribute superiority thought to the spoken language, is purely inacceptable.

"Language define CULTURAL ATTITUDES and sets cultural norms. And Culture constructs perceptions of others."
Show me that the inverse is true - "perception of others in some people must be due to their language".

If you can't, I might as well say this, according to your line of reasoning:
"English speaking Chinese like to make generalization. I have met a few such as frank&honest and some of my ex-college mates. Eerm, you know, it must be due to their culture and their schooling experience... language define cultural attitudes and sets cultural norms. And cultural norms influences personality. YEA that's right, english-ed people like to make generalization"

How I wish our exam questions are that easy.

p/s: And don't you get it? Yes, language is a vector of negative paradigms and worldview, but language is not the root cause. And you can't simply generalize a group of language users as being small-minded, based only on the vestigial use of "kwei" among some members in the community. I expected more than that from you.