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Pak Lah claims he wants people to work with him. But what he does is directly opposite. He claims he wants transparent and fight against corruption. He made lots of promises in his manifesto.

Now it seems we can't question anything? why? cos he has majrity support? Well he has 92% majority of seats, not voters!!! As mentined by Dr.M, even Pak Lah claims he has lost support based on some polls they have done. Pak Lah 180K people may have been to your open house. Is that less than 2004? Well guess the numbers are less. So have you lost support? Wonder why you didn't have it in fully renovated Sri Perdana this year?

Anyway Pak Lah the Sultan of Johor doesn't speak for all of us. I do know that the Gerbang perdana is waiting for compensation. Not sure who the major shareholders of gerbang Perdan are? ;)

Pak Lah practise what you preach. Don't tell us we shouldn't question the govt actions!!! Work with us Pak Lah. You are not the King or the country, where our loyalty is as per the Rukunnegara.You are just a govt that was elected by the people. You are not a king or prophet nor are your cabinet members. We can question you anytime, you are being paid by us, the shareholders of this country.

So time for some answers. As much as we may like or dislike Dr.M, he does raise a few questions that we the people want to know. No more elegant silence. Talk, you are a PM for heaven sakes. And interesting that you suddenly know that Scomi has 180 ships!!!

Pak Lah deliver your promises in the manifesto.It is afterall for this term, nto next 10 years!!! Also fight corruption, don't just NATO.

We are sick of you and your arrogant XXXL cabinet. I'll vote for PAS at this rate you are going. You are not above the law or above god Pak Lah and so is your cabinet. Be warned, your time is close. No sultan will win an election for you and you will be surprise during the next election that what the rakyat wants may be different from what the Sultans wants.

Work with us Pak Lah in a transparent way. Cut the BS and the spinning, not ALL of us are STUPID or LESU. We are sick of watching a football match where the players are warming up during the game.

Pak Lah may not be perfect, but I'm sick of Dr MahaFiraun's antics. All of his accusations against Pak Lah is typical pot-calling-kettle-black BS. When he accused Pak Lah of trying to form a police state that was ****ing gold. Someone needs to knock MahaFiraun's head and remind him of the sacking of judiciary and Operasi Lalang.

Yes, why not when he made a statement about zero accident, we can comment and said he is naïve, avoid accident and avoid all deaths. There is NO Truth in his statement. Check out the post at:
http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2006/10/nave-abdullah-wishes-for-zero-accident.html
But when you critise and comment using facts, Truths are changing when facts have changed; So there is NO absolute. Look at the argument by Abdullah that Dr Mahathir is NOT telling the truth when he said that Scomi had NO ships. Abdullah has distorted the truth perhaps because Mahathir can maintain that at the time of award of contract, Scomi had NO ships and once the contract was given it only acquired the company now with 180 ships.
So when trying to communicate your truth to somebody who is different, it almost … there becomes a question of honesty, rather than truth. Check out whose truths to believe in:
http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2006/10/abdullah-spited-by-mahathirs-venomous.html
& the link to the Full Statement by Tun Dr Mahathir on why he criticised the PM.

TDM may not be a saint during his reign as PM but do we need to shoot him down now when he may be our last hope for a better Msia? IF he is gone, who will stand up for us? So instead of trying to sentence TDM why not give him a chance in doing some thing for us all, like getting Pak Lah to walk his talk.

Do observe Pak Lah's cabinet members response to the dispute between TDM and Pak Lah. Some will simply open their mouth and stick their foot in it,which already some has done it while some has been keeping quiet unable to make a sound. Almost everyone of them is indebted to TDM and Pak Lah, so this is an interesting time we live in.

The issue is not Pak Lah alone, it is the whole administration from federal to states down to municipal council. Look at Najib, he is being cornered, he is trying to be good to both side while everyone expects him to jump ship at any moment coz of his past history.

The rest has to decide to sink or swim. This dispute is crippling the whole administration and country. No wonder the FDI is avoiding this country like a plague.

The issue is whether a malaysian citizen and a commoner can criticise the PM.

It is not about TDM a worse performing PM when compared to AAB.

Therefore, I agree with TDM that as a malaysian citizen and a commoner, we have the right to criticise the PM...whoever he is.

So Mishugina, as long as AAB is continuing the same 'wrongs' as TDM did before, it's OK?
I agree that TDM did some nasty things in his days but that cannot be the carte blanche for AAB to follow suit.
If you find what TDM did was reprehensible, so should you with AAB.
I am equally sick of people saying TDM did this and that,I am more interested in what can we do to prevent AAB from repeating them..
I have voted for BN, in futility, in Kelantan since 1990, but I swear to you i will vote PAS this time round even if they have a cow as a candidate.
Just to remind AAB that I used to vote for the welfare of Malaysia, not for him.
If ALL of our elected representatitives think that we voted for THEM as a person, this is the time to make them think again..
Come on and wake up my fellow Malaysians regardless of colour and religion, make it your struggle, to get rid of the current godless,Umno led Govt.

mahadey should not cry now since he's the one who built this culture of dictatorship ... remember how he whacked tunku, stripped judicial, took away the power of agong, corruptize all agencies (govn & independent) and so on ...

that's why i always say, what's goes around comes around ... now he tried to be known as a premier who's kind and fair (he's 82 mind you) before going off from this world ... tipical thinking of a dictator ...

the pm is just sitting smiling with all the inherited absolute power built by this old-half-dead-man ...

but i hope current pm will realize that the same thing will happen to him come the day when he no longer walk the corridor of power ...

those shoe-lickers will always win ... as they'll swing according to the wind direction ... can't we all see how immature our voters are and how easy the job of politicians in enriching themselves in this bolehland ??

god bless malaysia

http://stocktube.blogspot.com

Amen, MISHUGINA

Dr M's selective recall strikes again! And trying to appear to be the victim, the underdog, maybe even the helpless old man trying to save Malaysia. To me, it's all sendiwara.

Pak Lah has been posed some tough, troubling questions which he should answer. But Dr M has even more. Indeed, if we look carefully at some of the allegations and questions he now hurls at Pak Lah, he [Dr M] is the person who should be answering the allegations and questions. 22 long years of his excesses.

The ciziens of Malaysia, bar none, should have the right to question and air their views fairly and within reason. But if anyone, any citizen of Malaysia now has any less right to question Pak Lah, it is Dr M himself.

All I can say is that both are not angels. Agreed with stocktube that what's happening now had something to do with TunM's doing. So, I would like to dedicate Alicia Keys' Karma to all the leaders, past leaders, potential leaders & leaders wannabe. :p

IMHO, I respect those who accept criticism, evaluate the criticism, reply and make necessary changes if the criticism is valid.

From the way our ministers even the Johor Sultan responded to Dr M's criticism, it gives us the insight of how our ministers are. Can they accept criticism and make the necessary changes for the benefit of Malaysia or they just plain shooting "rubbish".

Anyway, I personally find it funny. If Dr M's accusation and criticism is not true, The MPs, the ministers or even the PM can hire the lawyer and just sue him. Why the huh hah?

As a 100% Malaysian, it is my right to speak out and criticize the govt whenever I think they are not performing as these people who are in power are elected by the public. So, no PM, DPM or any politicians can say you cannot criticise or else you will be in hot soup. We did not give anyone a carte blance to do what they want in the govt.

I am not a fan of DrM but I feel he has a right to criticise the govt as I do not think the present govt under AAB is doing a good job. AAB hides behind the fact that he has a 92% mandate from the people...many are regretting now because he has not delivered what he promised in the last election. We want competent and honest people in the govt not explorers. Far as I am concerned, I was decieved into thinking that AAB was the right man for the job. There are just too much corruption, nepotisim, favouritism and inaction that is going on without any positive action taken. We now even have a Klang Municiple Council guy building a 4 storey bungalow without approval and getting away with it (seems like it since the govt is very, very slow in taking any action for reasons only known to them). Also, there are 3 relatives in the Council!!!! Mentri Besar of Selangor is also funny to say now that only 2 relatives can be in the council...what a bull. There should only be 1 otherwise there will be biasness and favouritism. Why can't it be? No capable persons-ah? The Klang Council is going to collapse just because they need these 3 important and indispensable people to run the council-ah? I am sure many of you have encountered that in the private sector when a married couple is in the same office, one will have to go. Why can't that be practiced in the municiple? Are there more of such cases?

Personally, I don't care if a person is titled or otherwise, if he wants to be a public servant, he better do a good job, otherwise as citizens, we have a right to criticize him/her or even vote or get rid of these people. You will lose your right to criticise only if you allow these politicians to say you can't. So, know your rights and defend it.

Hey opposition leaders, I suggest you list out all these situations to remind many of us Malaysians who have very short memory during election time of the short comings of many of these people we Malaysians have been misled to vote for. Perhaps in the next election, we will all vote for people who are really deserving of the trust and confidence of the citizens to build a better tomorrow for the country and its people.

In summary, you get what you vote for though I really can't blame the raayat as we were sweet talked into believing..me included. BTW, don't just blame the PM, most of the politicians are in the same boat and category. You are the best judge and should reflect what they have done for you and the country so far not when it comes to election time where they will try to give you goodies and sweet talk you into voting for them. If you vote for an incompetent to represent us and the country collapses, we are to be blamed too. Afterall, we voted for these incompetents there. Let's not make the same mistake twice. The hope and future of the country and Malaysians depends on you making the right choice. Every one vote counts.

Who is the PM of Malaysia? Isn't he the Member of Parliment elected by the people of his constituency?
So can the people criticise him if he is doing a good job as promised ?
If he refused to listen, then it is time to choose a better candidate, come the next GE.

Truely a veteran politician. He got the powers that be on the run/ defensive. What did he use? Words.

All being said, Dr M whether you like it or not led us for 20 odd years, that much we have to give him respect. We have forgotten some of his bright moments. Remember pegging the ringgit when it went south? We could have been a basket case sooner.

Yes, there many things that happened in his watch that did not go down well with many of us. It could have been some other incompetent leader for 20 odd years.

I think the answer is already known. Had we not been critising the PM all this while? That he is indecisive? That he does not walk his talk? About his son and son in law? About the police state thing, if not mistaken, Tun's time also like that wasn't it? I know.. I know, Pak Lah should not repeat it. I think he is not repeating it, otherwise do you think Screenshots, a place where we can criticise the government freely, still exists?

JEFF OOI says: Come on, don't be naive, this is Screenshots blogger speaking. I have NEVER told you the harassment I had faced and the threat to my career, and livelihood, that I am still facing. I WON'T say it just that my blogging mission far outweighs my sufferings. But I am not invincible under this administration, that's all I can tell you from the horse's mouth. When I stop blogging, you would know my blogging jopurney has become untenable. Make full use of this blog if it serves a purpose in allowing Malaysians talking to each other. The light may switch off when the over-powerful becomes over-powering.

I'm not against Tun's from voicing out, in fact I support and admire his bold courages. However that does not mean I have to agree with every word he said. But, I'm looking forward for his continue criticism of the government.

What the hack, isn't it good someone is taking his time to watch the government? Perhaps he realised his wrong doings in the past but cannot admit it, now trying to pay back what the citizens had lost? Give him a chance!

why can't we criticise? Of course we can criticise. Remenber he is govt of the people, we elected him, we can also remove him at the next election..and definitely we have the right to criticise....howvever he may feel.

It is up to AAB to respond with CREDIBLE ANSWERS & REPLIES to shut up those wanting answers. Until today, still buat tak tahu. He should stop listening to his kuncu and walk the streets,,,talk to the taxi drivers, go to the mamak coffee shops and listen....

AAB is fed with rubbish news by the people around him so that AAB and Tun will never see eye to eye.

What has Tun said, that were "doses of venom" If you read Tun's statement, he said that he finally have a chance to tell AAB face to face what he was asking for. Answers to his questions.

So now it is AAB to reply..don't play taichi...it will not gain any respect from people sitting on the fence. Just only proves his indecision.

For the record I am no fan of Tun. He is not an angel either......AAB, ball is in your court.

TDM is getting the taste of his own medicine now and he hates it! But I'm glad TDM is kicking a fuss about current administration. The outlook of Malaysia economy is not looking good. FDI is declining, rakyat is bearing more burdens with the increase of just about anything. The rich and the corrupted are getting richer and more daring. Government servants are doing things at their whim and fancy. AAB is a total failure as far as I'm concerned. He has not done anything that worth praising. AAB has betrayed the rakyat by lying that his son didn't get any government mega projects contracts which he later admitted when TDM fired at him. And AAB is letting his son-in-law to behave like a Mat Rempit.

S.O.S .. Mahathir oh Mahathir.. you should spend more time seeking the people forgiveness nowdays. Abdullah will get his day soon too, we all will but naturally yours is closer than the rest. We all aren't idiots. You are mocking Malaysians by trying to act as though you champion the people. We know your cronies are out of the game and thats why nak duduk pun bontot berasap.

Instant Karma?

Dear Lethaisor,
Granted, TDM might be the last person to question about the loss of right to question but what good would it do, for a person like you or me with fully deserved right, to question AAB?
You think anybody would have cared?
At least TDM is voicing out MY concern too, and they are heared,LOUD and CLEAR.

my take is that actually, there is more free speech and questioning now than under TDM's time.

What has however not changed, is all the dirt under the carpet and skeletons in the cupboard. The difference is, under TDM, they get kept hidden in the cupboard, away from public view, now they are more exposed for all to see. An example is Klang, you think all these "happenings" didn't existed before?

ABB's greatest mistake is, letting the dirt get exposed, and then not doing anything to clean it up. Or not being able to, or not really wanting to, I don't know.

That is why things looks so "dirty" now, and FDI are running away. It didn't help that the Minister directly in charged openly encourage those "not happy investors" to go to China.....

Now, this is an interesting topic to begin with; especially when one are about to criticize the PM. More so when the internet does not operate in a legal vacuum, and think before you leave a comment or you might face legal action and prosecution. Will having a disclaimer counts to protect myself when pass what deemed to be negative comments on the current leadership of Malaysia? Can we be a positive citizen when; if you want to know something, please ask properly but never get a reply? And I am very confused on exactly how to ask a question properly; maybe the PM can set an example.

On second thought, I guess is alright to criticize whatever and whenever about the present Malaysian government even if it’s not true, because the government taught us that, never tell the truth. If the government does not take it citizen seriously, whether it is a comment; criticism or question, so can us, the citizen of Malaysia. And the kids will learn from us all this so imagine what kind of society we’ll be in when they grow up.

Let see if any of us would be ISA detainees as TDM put it; we are becoming a police state, and thank the PM who gives Malaysian the word "criticism" a whole new meaning. While we are still debating about the true meaning of the word, who’s right or wrong, no one notices that we have became the joke of the world, and not the example of a developing nation once admired my many countries.

I am sure many people are not happy and frustrated with the current administration with their talk more than action antique, faking illness politician. Our nation has become more like a series of comedy unfolding in the newspaper everyday. Can we be proud as a nation with politicians like this? Here’s a piece of advice, with the way our country is being manage, let push vision 2020 further, don’t set a dateline.

All this must stop, is not amusing anymore. The citizen are not stupid, we know what’s real and what’s not, just set the record straight so truth will prevail and lets build a nation based on that. We are wasting too much valuable time and our future generation is at stake where no race will be spared from our own mistake. If that so happened dear PM, you will have to take full accountability, and I hope you live to see it your work of wonder.

I think there are enough online criticisms of AAB to test Tun's contention. Mine, written in this case specifically for that purpose, can be found here.

In a real and mature democracy, rakyat who speak their mind honestly, objectively and with sincere intentions should have nothing to fear. Is Malaysia a real and mature democracy? Guess that depends on whether the SB come knocking.

i guess the tun did not read martin jalleh's open letter to him.

while i feel it is his right to criticise but i also feel he had gone overboard.

most of what the tun had criticised the gomen off (like being a police state) are only part of his legacy, so who to blame?

PEOPLE, I ENJOY READING ALL YOUR COMMENTS, SOME INCISIVE, SOME IN BLURLAND, SOME FUNNY, AND A FEW DOWNRIGHT OBSCENE. FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS, EVERYONE HAS MISSED AN IMPORTANT AND A VERY CRITICAL POINT. HERE IS A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU, FOR US, TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS COUNTRY. ALLOW ME TO ELABORATE:

1. I DO NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT MAHADHIR HAD DONE DURING HIS WATCH, BUT I CANNOT DENY THE GOODS THAT HE HAD DELIVERED. BASHING TDM NOW IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. SO TO THOSE WHO HAVE A BONE TO PICK WITH THE MAN, GIVE HIM A TEMPORARY REPRIEVE FOR A BIGGER CHALLANGE IS LOOMING IN THE HORIZON. DON'T WASTE YOUR ENERGY TO GET AN INSTANT ORGASM.

2. WE KNOW THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS WEAK AND INEFFECTIVE, AND ARROGANT. ALL OF US HAVE WANTED TO SEE CHANGES FOR THE BETTER FOR ALL THE RAKYAT IN THE PAST, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT IN SOME WAYS, IN OUR OWN WAYS, TO EFFECT THAT CHANGE, LIKE GIVING LANDSLIDE MANDATE TO THE PRESENT ADMININSTRATION ON THE PROMISE OF A BETTER FUTURE FOR US. THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, WE KNOW NOW.

WE GIVE, WE CAN ALSO TAKE. INSTEAD OF US SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER, WOULDN'T IT BE MORE EFFECTIVE IF WE ARE TO WORK TOGETHER FOR A COMMON GOAL, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS TO GET A MORE EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT THAT LOOK AFTER THE WELFARE OF ALL ITS CITIZENS. CAST ASIDE COMMUNAL FEARS, GENDER DIVISIONS AND CLASS DISTINCTIONS. WE HAVE A GREATER CHALLANGE TO OVERCOME. ALL THE INGREDIENTS FOR CHANGE ARE NOW COMING INTO PLACE, AND MAHATHIR IS PROVIDING THE THRUST.

TO NATIONALIST UMNOPUTRAS, NON-UMNOPUTRAS,BUMI-NON-MALAYS, AND DAN-LAIN-LAIN, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE WAITED FOR 49 YEARS. THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE DREAMS OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS OF A BANGSA MALAYSIA TO COME INTO BEING.

TO THOSE WHO TAKE PLEASURE IN BASHING TDM, MY ADVISE IS STOP IT FOR THE MOMENT. THE MAN IS LEADING 'OUR STRUGGLE' SO I SAY GIVE HIM THE SUPPORT. YOU'RE DISTRACTING THE OTHERS FROM FOCUSSING ON THE REAL OBJECTIVES. OTHERWISE AAB WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THAT HE HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE, AND WITH JUSTIFICATION TOO. TDM HAS ELECTED HIMSELF TO BE THE GENERAL IN THIS BATTLE, SO BE IT BECAUSE YOU AND I CAN'T AND NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO WANT TO TAKE THAT JOB. I AM NO FAN OF TDM, BUT I RESPECT HIS GRIT. HE HAS BALLS. HE MAY HAVE HIS OWN AGENDA, I DON'T CARE. HE MAY BE GIVEN THE CEASAR'S TREATMENT IN THE END, HE KNOWS THAT. HE KNOWS HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED VERY WELL. BUT RIGHT NOW HE IS FIGHTING OUR BATTLE FOR US. HE IS PROVIDING THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE ALL SO WANT. SUPPORT HIM AND LET THAT WIMP AND ALL HIS KUNCU-KUNCU IN THE CABINET, THE STATES AND THE MUNICIPAL COUNCILS KNOW THAT THE RAKYAT HAVE AWAKEN.

WOULD ANY CHANGE BE WORSE THAN WHAT IT IS NOW? MAYBE. BUT IF THE CHANGE TURN OUT TO BE A MISTAKE, IT WIL BE 'OUR' MISTAKE AND WE CAN RECTIFY IT. BUT TO LET THE SITUATION CONTINUES ON ITS PRESENT, THERE WILL NO HOPE WHATSOEVER FOR THE FUTURE. SO UNIFY, MY FRIENDS. FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY MAY NOT COME AGAIN.

Folks

This is an issue about Pak Lah as President of UMNO, not Pak Lah as Prime Minister.

We are criticising Pak Lah for not having the marbles to remove his son in law, to curb the extremists in UMNO and UMNO Youth, for allowing UMNO Youth extremists like the keris-wielding Umno Youth leader to become Education Minister.

Pak Lah as Prime Minister should be game for all political parties... other political parties are keeping quiet. WHY ?

This is an UMNO FIGHT at the expense of the country...

It is not in reality a fight between the former PM an the current PM for the soul of Malaysia. It is a fight for UMNO's rationale for its existence, and for UMNO's right to pursue its greed using taxpayers' money.

The backers of Mahathir are those who got side-lined by Pak Lah and his Son In Law for those closed contracts, those multi-million business opportunities; and the backers of Pak Lah are the current UMNO Ministers who want to keep their perks and their jobs, and by those newcomers in UMNO Youth and UMNO who think it is NOW THEIR TURN to get both of their hands on the get-rich-quick UMNO-sponsored contracts and business opportunities which others during Dr M's time had obtained.

It is all about agreed between the backers of Dr M and Pak Lah.

It is not about criticising Pak Lah as Prime Minister.. it is not relevant..

It is about criticising the President of UMNO.. and as always in Malaysia, everything, including the future and fate of Malaysia, was made deliberately to revolve around UMNO, and it does NOT matter if the country goes to the dogs.

Think about it!!

my opinion is dnt even bother them! this's their own mean for playing us around, thats their so called political arguement.thinking back with rationaly, whoever is the winner doesn't help us, a normal citizen! the poverty still appear then. those datuk datuk still own a big house,$$ still go for them. suggesting we are just a chess for them!

quote: So Mishugina, as long as AAB is continuing the same 'wrongs' as TDM did before, it's OK?

I did say Pak Lah isn't perfect. I agree his comments about Scomi was laughable, but look how pathetic MahaFiraun is right now. That guy needs mental help. He's so paranoid he says that we're to be persecuted if we criticize Pak Lah! He says websites like Jeffooi here is bugged! If what MahaFiraun says is true, then I'll see rest of you folks in court!!! ROFLMAO!

F&H hit the nail on the thumb. And it hurts for the whole country.

Neil
somewhere
East Asia

F&H has got it right, it's all about UMNO and power.

And I have always maintained, and yet to be proven wrong, the ruling class (ie UMNOputras) are willing to sacrifice the country (race relations, economic growth, FDI, education, etc) for their continued hegemony.

As the saying goes, then the elephants fight, the grass gets crushed.