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You're in the news again, Jeff. From The Star: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/8/7/nation/15068589&sec=nation

To quote:

In the case of blogger Jeff Ooi whom he said had misreported him, Fu said Ooi should get his facts right in his website.

Which fact did you not get right?

Double standards!!! But then this whole thing is a sandiwara by a few people to bring down bloggers who write the truth. They are using this issue to blow up the whole issue and make it a test case.The truth needs to be surpress. anyway it is good as more people will know jeffooi.com.

well jeff I have to shoot off.cao.

So, when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her". (John 8:7)

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. (Matthew 7:3-5)

Nobody is perfect, Nades. Whilst I respect your thoughtful posts, learn to forgive others for their shortcomings (if at all there was a mistake on their part).

(What the HELL are you pabling about, pablopabla!)
The SUN ain't shining too bright no more, eh?
So, it's business now. "Live and let Live?"
You blokes are demoralising your own team.
Sometimes, it be better not to run down others to save your own s.

Just hope you guys won't Let the sun go down on us.

Offtopic :

For IT world, FUD is a popular term. It stand for Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

Many IT company found their FUD strategy backfire due to ever changing Internet landscape.

Generally, FUD is derive from a political/marketing strategy call Appeal to fear

“And it is an open secret that unless you put a gun to the heads of many of those in power, nothing will move”.
... and if that does not work, then I suppose if you said " ... plus a stick of dynamite in their underpants to get them off their backsides " would be viewed as promoting terrorism ?
OK - more careful next time.

Jeff,

You now have cause to file the same complain to MCMC verbatim with just a few changes. AFter all all public servants are our servants and should a gun be pointed to their heads its like its pointed to our heads as well. So I guess we too have the right to file a complain as we feel threatened. If MCMC wants to act they should do so in parallel.

Guna should go hang himself with a long shoe string now if he cannot have the decency of apologising to you both through his press as well as through a personal mail that ought to be published here. Otherwise SUN be warned, every word you publish will get the scrutiny that it deserves.

This Fu cannot just say "misreported" and not say what and when it was that he was misreported. Did Jeff actually report anything or did Jeff merely carry a report or quote a report from the mainstream media? The problem with these losers like Fu is that they have not really enough liguistic skills and the bigger sin is not knowing how and when they indulge in stuff they should well stay out of. Proving themselves to be bigger idiots then they really are is ofcourse a skill all its own that our Malaysian politicians have acquired.

doovad,

my comments above are directed at Nades and his bosses.

Sorry if the comments were confusing but the sources definately does not originate from Hell.

Wow…

Jeff,

Tq.

I will continue to be your self-appointed researcher as long as you keep on the good fight and focus on “masalah rakyat”.

Just to add…I really hope we don’t make the mistake of accepting Article 11 as another fight for “freedom of speech”. I seriously do not want to face what my grandparents had to face on May 13, 1969”.

Please follow what our PM advised - relax...have a Kit Kat.

... take a break

Interesting...I will take note of that..In order to fully comply with the non-violence stance of the Guna and friends, from now on, I think the word "SHOOT", "SHOT" and their various variations should be totally and completely banned by the Sun, the Edge and what not English newspapers in Malaysia.

naz, you are quite right. article 11 is not about freedom of speech. it is about freedom of all malaysians to profess and practise the faith of their choosing.

To be fair, its inappropriate to use Nades's words (which to me is taken out of context) to argue in this case. Let's be objective about this. I personally find this amusing and yet tasteless.

Al,

Nades's words are taken out of context to show how unfair and inapproriate Jeff being treated by the media.

Not only that, P Gunasegaram in his article "The myth of Mahathir's invincibility" second last paragraph also quoted "But we Malaysians have this habit of shooting ourselves in our feet oftentimes...".

Is he quoting a fact that Malaysians likes to shoot ourselves in our feet?

I for one, had not and will never do that.

Mr. Guna pls do not say we M'sians have such habit. Its bad for the country's image.

jeff:

The "shooting..." phrase is much ado about nothing... as a journalist with his English will know it's idiomatic or hyperbole usage of the language. Guna is acting on account of you -- followed by knotty Desi-- wondering when we'll hear something about the Bowman Papers case! The trouble nowadays there is too much Sandiwara going on and we must read in-between the lines, even the empty spaces...

JEFF OOI says: In the absence of a solid premise to play sniper, we will wait for the Bowman Papers to see the light of the sun. Meanwhile, let's shoot the breeze.

is shoot same as ejaculate? I used to shoot lizards but did not use guns...

Much ado over nothing....

Dear Friends,

I don't think Guna is solely responsible for this. He does not seem like a guy will fall for this kind of cheap media tricks. I strongly believe he was tricked into this by "You know his BOSS - K.. T.." to gain popularity mileage. This poor guy willingly or unwillingly became the GOAT.

Guna, the management is cashing in on your expense and shame, bro.

Is this the issue of personal attack or the credibility of the journalist at stake?

Mr. Gunasegaram, please shoot me down now

Brendan Pereira on Monday: Expect attacks to continue

07 August, 2006

ANY journalist wanting to express an opinion on politics in Malaysia today is like a man trying to change a light bulb. He is trying to shed some light, but knows that he may well be on the receiving end of a painful shock. Take the case of P. Gunasegaram, the group executive editor of The Edge.

His thought-provoking article titled "The myth of Mahathir’s invincibility" unleashed a gush of bile. He was attacked mercilessly on websites and blogs, with one coward saying "somebody, please shoot this Gunasegaram for good".

Sadly, many of his critics were not interested in debating the substance of his commentary. Fewer still wanted to visit the core of his thesis — whether Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad can get back the power when someone else holds it and is not about to give it up.

Gunasegaram tracked the former prime minister’s political career, noting that on a number of occasions over the years he was challenged. But each time, the power of incumbency kept him in power.

The writer argued that based on Malaysian political history, there was a danger of overestimating the former prime minister’s power over the power of incumbency, which Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi enjoys.

Instead of tearing his argument to shreds, his critics took the easy way out — they mocked the colour of his skin, questioned his fitness to comment on a former leader, etc. By doing so, they were hoping to pummel him into submission, force him into thinking twice before attempting another piece on Dr Mahathir. Why?

Because many Malaysians are intolerant. Don’t buy all that talk about freedom of speech. We either pull up the shutters or unsheathe the knife when someone offers a differing opinion. Perhaps even more disturbing is the ease at which some people — even those who have professed to embrace all Malaysians — reach for the race card to explain their disdain for an article or writer. The trend of attacking the messenger and avoiding a debate on the message is not going to change. It is not in the interest of some parties to have clarity in the system.

It is also not in their interest to have writers and journalists dissecting their statements and actions.

So expect the personal attacks to continue. In fact, expect it to get more personal, nasty and intense. Everything will be fair game — race, religion, national allegiance. Half-truths will be stirred together with lies and served up as facts.

That is the only weapon in the arsenal of those who want to neutralise writers or journalists who are not on the same page with them.

The perfect riposte from Gunasegaram and his ilk would be to keep on writing. Heaven knows, there is so much more to tell Malaysians about the country they live in, about the leaders they support and just what is Dr Mahathir’s end game.

woohooo....

it's hard being famous...for the wrong reason.

(sorry jeff, pun intended)

Brendan: "The trend of attacking the messenger and avoiding a debate on the message is not going to change. It is not in the interest of some parties to have clarity in the system."

Go figure.

JEFF OOI says: And Satu Lagi Projeck NSTP: "Shoot to kill".

I am appaled by this blog's incessent attack on the "shoot" comment, and on Guna. I feel that the commentaries from Jeff and from readers should not escalate this matter beyond "burning bridges". I am asking that commentators to preserve the relationship between conflicting parties, because only then can we behave rationally and making unbiased observations.

Also, as this is a public blog-space, we readers are also the blog's stakeholders - Jeff shouldn't hijack this public blog-space for any personal feud towards anyone.

I agree with RoadCyclist.