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so the question again arose as to whether PDRM is here to serve UMNO or the rakyat? DOnt forget when rakyat went on a peaceful demo in the recent fuel hike they were treated as if they were hooligans but the same treatment wasnt gvn umno youth when they gate crash a summit whilst burning flags and behaving like monkeys. Double standards? It is to me.

Steven Gan is manly enough to admit to his mistakes, and we should applaud him for that.

By the way, as a policy, will the UMNO Youth willingly admit to the Rakyat to any mistakes that they would have made, and will any of them courageously resign for any grievous mistakes they would have incurred?

bravo Steven... going along the same vein... how come no one asked for the removal of the group-editor-in-chief of NST when he actually misreported the meeting of TDM and badawi in Japan?

There is widespread opinion within the government that I think is completely ridiculous: that the average 'rakyat' is somehow below the average civil servant(PDRM/minister included). This is the reason why they think they could bully the ordinary 'rakyat' doing their job.

they give nationalism a bad name, these grown-up kids.

[i]...they are not my bosses and I don't take orders from them.[/i]

Bravo to Steven for taking the stand. He owns up to his follies, now why can't the government or similar authorities admit their mistakes too? After all, no one is perfect.

Pfft, and it seems that government authorities dispatches the PDRM to do 'self censorship'? I didn't know the 'extension' of powers to sack editors-in-chiefs is available to them.

I really felt sorry for you, Steven Gan. You are bold ebought to admit there is a mistake and apologised. Unfortunately, police is playing a different tune out to get you, as it seems. OK, let compare with Kalimunah of NST. he keeps reporting and screwing the facts involving the top No 1 and former No. 1 and also slandered on TDM. WOuldn't that police should take action against NST for false reporting on the PM? All knows that Utusan Malaysia is rather non-credible paper that published more wrong facts than right, and oftenly, gone too much and critises other races and religions. Isn't that wrong? I guess if Malaysiakini belongs to BN or UMNO, probably you can be sitting on Kalimunah's room now at NST instead of him.

I really felt sorry for you, Steven Gan. You are bold ebought to admit there is a mistake and apologised. Unfortunately, police is playing a different tune out to get you, as it seems. OK, let compare with Kalimunah of NST. he keeps reporting and screwing the facts involving the top No 1 and former No. 1 and also slandered on TDM. WOuldn't that police should take action against NST for false reporting on the PM? All knows that Utusan Malaysia is rather a non-credible paper that published more wrong facts than right, and oftenly, gone too much and critises other races and religions. Isn't that wrong? I guess if Malaysiakini belongs to BN or UMNO, probably you can be sitting on Kalimunah's room now at NST instead of him. This is indeed a confusing practise of the police.

I really felt sorry for you, Steven Gan. You are bold ebought to admit there is a mistake and apologised. Unfortunately, police is playing a different tune out to get you, as it seems. OK, let compare with Kalimunah of NST. he keeps reporting and screwing the facts involving the top No 1 and former No. 1 and also slandered on TDM. WOuldn't that police should take action against NST for false reporting on the PM? All knows that Utusan Malaysia is rather a non-credible paper that published more wrong facts than right, and oftenly, gone too much and critises other races and religions. Isn't that wrong? I guess if Malaysiakini belongs to BN or UMNO, probably you can be sitting on Kalimunah's room now at NST instead of him. This is indeed a confusing practice of the police.

williamC, those who subscribes to dr.m's rationale may remind you that gan is not of the right race to lead nst... and jeff appears to not like hypothetical rhetoric… so let stay in the non-fiction world shall we? ;-)

u r right lsk... lts be realistic.. by the way it is going right now, the day steven gan can take over kalimullah's position is the day when a malay/indian can be the chief editor at sin chew jit poh/nanyang siang pau...

JEFF OOI says: Do you realise that, in Sarawak, the editor of Malay paper has been a Chinese? That may change soon, though.

well blackrage, for whatever it's worth, if any of the chinese dailies claims that to protect the interest of the chinese race in malaysia as its mission, my confidence on that paper will drop right away. notwithstanding the fact that i already don't view with high esteem any of the mainstream chinese dailies owned at least partly by any of the political parties. don't overestimate the influnce of the chinese dailies on the chinese community esp the younger generation. actually, it is my humble opinion that if the umno gov had kept english medium schools, most of the young people now will not be reading chinese papers at all....
anyway, i don't think all malays subscribe to dr.m's bs. while some non-malays do. after all, this is malaysia. if not for the hard work of some people to divide us, we should see we have more things in common than differences.

well my friend... unlucky me I cant read chinese... but somehow I am sure that as much as nst, utusan and other malay/english dailies focus on umno leaders and the malays, sin chew and nanyang would do the same for mca and the chinese... its just that they do not say it out loud.. its just that mahathir actually said it out loud.. not something I agree with but he did it nevertheless... dont get me wrong... I dont have anything against the chinese (nor any other race for that matter except for the jews)..

jeff, sorry ah boss... sidetrack a bit..

getting back on track, wonder when brendan, kalimullah and guna gonna get their letter from the suddenly-excitable-over-eager- lately umno youth..

or should that be easily-over-excited-since-SIL-is-being -is-being-shot-at-by-everyone umno youth

Jeff,

It's July 28, not August 28

let the police investigate....that is their job..but if the police do not investigate the other dailies for half truths and the shitty news they print...it just shows the quality of the police force....so Steven Gan bear with it..

as for UMNO Youth...they are just a bunc of joker. The Youth chief is extremely quiet and the deputy is calling the shots.The Youth members should in fact put the effort to better use like finding a good explanation on how the Deputy Youth Chief is financing his loan for the ECM Libra shares.

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Home Minister (PM) would have the final say if he wants to proceed to prosecute them. Surely the police would not like to miss this opportunity to extract its “pound of flesh” from Malaysiakini.

A very pertinent question posed is what the police going to do about the numerous reports made over the years by non-governmental organisations, as well as opposition parties, on similar transgressions done by the authorities in power? Why are these reports not acted upon and treated with urgency?
Check out details at:
http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2006/08/aliran-stop-probe-against-malaysiakini.html

Looking at his actions and his speeches,it is obvious to me that KJ still believes that Malaysia is still in the 20th century,when all UMNO youth leaders must make radical speeches,actions in order to climb up.

KJ,your dear father-in-law already declared to the whole world that Malaysia is now in a new era of openness and transparency,why is it that you do not seem to believe so,then what do you expect the voters to think?

Come on,20th century is no more,time waits for noone,if you want to be a national in the 21st century,you got to do much better than what you ahve done so far.

blackrage: "but somehow I am sure that as much as nst, utusan and other malay/english dailies focus on umno leaders and the malays, sin chew and nanyang would do the same for mca and the chinese..."

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I hope you are not trying to justify Mahathir's rant. If you want to take a shot at the Chinese papers, please go ahead. But using them to justify Mahathir's statement - that's bad.

I'd better clarify that when I said: "If you want to take a shot at the Chinese papers, please go ahead..", I mean't "If you want to criticize the Chinese papers, please go ahead..."

Thank you.

-B

But Gan, as a relatively experienced journalist, its rather a bit odd for you guys to assume in haste that M'sian police is actually USING PEPPER SPRAY to control crowd.

Man...M'sian police seldom use pepper spray in recent history. Not in Malaysia.