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Yeah yeah yeah, police did the arrest in ops lalang, not Dr.M. So LKS was jailed for nothing! Same in today's politic. It is KM say all the things, not PakLah.

The authorization is no doubt passed to subordinate, but the responsibility is still within the leader. Dr.M still responsible for the action.

This is definitely rubbish from TDM.

Now he challenged AAB to arrest him under ISA,can AAB claims that police would make that decision.

RUBBISH!

Another irresponsible comment from TDM. I still remember the anguish/anxiety/trauma felt during that period of time when the whole of KL got under an unofficial "curfew." Now we know his reason for Operasi Lalang - his political survival! LKS used to go to TDM's house during Raya prior to that incident but no longer after that. My advice to TDM? Retire gracefully lah! Prepare for your afterlife and seek forgiveness from those you victimise. After all you are human like all of us...

Hmmm ... that's was the last straw for me. Whatever respects I have for TM has disappeared.

Are the men in white coats at his doors to cart him away?

peace

i may have disagreed with many things dr.m said and did but i always admit this guy has mega-size balls.... but now...
this must be the most no-ball thing mahathir has done!
worse than half-past-six!

TDM

Operation Lalang was effective in quelling the tension that was rising at that time. But you would have made an honest man of yourself and the credibility of your actions then would have been sustained if only Najib and Nazri were both nabbed as well as they were the ones drawing out kerises and challenging for a fight. I cannot forget the incident at TPCA. And in any case the final sgning off of those to be held under detention was you as Home minister and you knew you were incarcerating LKS and Karpal although Najib and Nazri deserved it more.

Well, whoever you are (the mastermind); THANK YOU! Because of Op Lalang, I applied and was offered a job by a newspaper in New Zealand and we migrated to a new future!

Well, I think it was Dr M who popularised the phrase, "Melayu mudah lupa".

In his case, can it be said that he has 'easily' forgotten?

The actual scope and breath of the 'easily' is left to your own interpretation lah.

TDM must be kidding. I am surprised that such irresponsible words could come out from his mouth exactly the type of irresponsible behavior he is showing now by giving lots of airy fairy talks. Rubbish! Don’t tell us that we were in a police state when he was the Prime Minister. He is either senile or suffering some kind of dementia or reaching his second childhood.

I have no respect to this kind of people. I did suggest that he retires peacefully in my comments in many blogs. The more he says the more he is downgrading himself.

Pak Lah, please ignore this senile old man and it is not worth your position to answer to this kind of rubbish. You have exercised your wisdom.

Don't you think that dear Pak Lah must explain properly the business ventures of his son and son-in-law,as demanded by the people.

Like the Chinese saying go:change the soup but never change the herb.

It can't be,we cannot carry on the old way and business as usual.Good that TDM wants to spearhead this reform campaign.

Now we have the ex-PM and ex-DPM on the strong refomasi agenda,we must succeed.
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This is really crazy. Spin doctors at both camps must be working real hard. what im worried is we are too engrossed with the "drama" to pay attention to the real issues. I suggest we take them both to task and invite these two cl***s to court. who knows, it is bolehland afterall.

Pengembara: "Hmmm ... that's was the last straw for me. Whatever respects I have for TM has disappeared."

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Hmmm... mine dissapeared a long time ago. Mahathir is very fond of saying he will detain those who play with Chinese sentiment. What about those who play with Malay/Muslim sentiment?

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Quotes from Mahathir:
"Among the things that need to be resolved is (by) sacking people like (group editor) Brendan Pereira from NST. This is our newspaper, but it is these people who are speaking on behalf of the Malays. I want to know, if he is a Malay or not. "

I gathered that many actions taken by Dr.M were not popular to some segments of Malaysia society. But we must forget the past and focus on the present. If you take side now, history may repeat itself. I do not think Dr.M wants to be the PM again. The stability of Malaysia also depends a lot on her economy. The economy today was planned and installed during Dr.M era. Any planning would probably have a 3-5 years gestation period before the real effect. So let me ask you a question "Ignore the present economical data, do you think the economy outlook 3 years from now will be good?". While we are arguing about who is more righteous, we are missing many 'F(s)' in the 'of(s)'. I missed them totally until some good soul left the clue.

vital9:
you are the discerning one.
someone wants the "economy' to slump -- and is in fact succeeding partially already! -- so the rest of the populace will have a PRICE -- humongous indeed if you comapre with 1997/98 asian financial crisis-stiockmarket crash when I ws in active MSM journalism.

Some1 who allowed a ministerial son to obtain RM1.2BILLION banking facilities now wants an account from a PM-isteral son-in-law to EXPLAIN a RM9-10million facility to but ECM-Libra shares...do you see thye kacang putih and the duirian compariason? Who will crush us all, if this durian seller should throw all his rotten durian in our faces?

If you find my writing a li'l CODE-ish, visit my Blog and then email me...Meanwhile, pray that that some1 doesn't succeed, now the word "Iblis" comes to mind, and also become relevant? God protect NegaraKu; I Say Amen.

vital9, you might have misunderstood. we don't have to take side. when we say someone is lying to our face, misleading people by half-truth bs and have anything but righteous agendas even when he seemed to be saying the right things, because we have known him for 20 years. however that doesn't mean we say it's ok for the same old stories and practices to be repeated with other group of families & cronies. or that it's ok to be led by a lame duck who doesn't know which direction the sun comes up.
we are just saying that we know when the duck is lame, we can deal with him ourselves. we don't need someone to tell us how to do it. esp if that someone clearly has other concerns beside truth in his mind. we don't have to take side with the lame duck. but i for one definitely don't want to take side with the wolve in sheep's skin.

http://jameswongwingon-online.blogspot.com/

"However, allow me to remind all those who are interested in the debate of civil liberty and human rights in Malaysia that it was unmistakably also Tun Dr. Mahathir who, very soon after he became the prime minister in 1981, ordered the releases of many ISA detainees incarcerated during Tun Hussein Onn's time. They included DAP's Chan Kok Kit and Chian Heng Kai who suffered for four years and nine months as the victims of the unjust and oppressive law independent Malaya/Malaysia has inherited from yersteryears' British colonialism. Heng Kai now lives in his hometown Muar and we only met a few weeks ago in Kuala Lumpur.

I also think it is time for Malaysians, including Parliamentary Leader Lim Kit Siang, to also condemn the detentions without trials in the 1960s and 1970s of more opposition leaders and activists of the now destroyed Labour Party of Malaya and People's Party when the Tunku Abdul Rahman, Tun Abdul Razak and Tun Hussein Onn were in power. Let us not practise 'selective memory' while we accuse other of so doing.

Two or more wrongs do make a right but the history of detention without trial certainly did not begin with Operation Lallang or the assumption of the prime ministerial office by Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad in 1981."
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Well said James.

mysweetlady: "Well said James"

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Silly James. The issue is not whether other PM's used ISA. It's about Mahathir trying to defend his past actions.

TDM was not the first nor the last leader who performed acts of mercy in the early part of their rule. It is extremely good politics to show the public the man of the hour has a heart after all. Notice Anwar was released soon after Pak Lah came to power.

Even if we convict TDM and put him to face the law, that does not solve the current political mess.

We put him behind bars, we shut his mouth, on the other hand we could be freeing the wild beasts.

If TDM can find any evidence, I hope he can, let him publish it to the public. The PM must explain.

Maybe future history books will be kinder to M2 but right now there are too many unanswered questions, not just the 22 from the Edge, nor the additional 17 that came from someone who had written to M'kini.

If there's money to spend, it's impossible not to show some result for it. The question remains: was too much spent that leaves a lurking feeling that some of it had leaked away? If one says that part of the leakage had gone to Umno, is that the right thing to do, for whatever reason? To which one must add how much of that part that was to have gone to Umno wasn't leaked elsewhere into someone's pockets?

Up to now, no one knows how much more than what is necessary was committed for toll privatisation of the highways, whatever the full package of the deal. When ministers can have splendorous homes in Tropicana and Perth or a large ranch in Argentina, it would be hard not to conclude that the money didn't come from their salaries, or somewhere else.

'Plunder' was the word bantered around. One would have dismissed this except when you look around and see the state of the nation, see how the real rakyat suffer every day, see what the country could have afforded more in the past, see how politicians have had to eat their own words about the state of the economy, you just wonder whether there's something even more wrong in the background that must be known once and for all.

And the only way is for the two elephants to slug it out in that jungle so that the mud flings will open up the whole jingbang rubbish heap.

The rakyat need to know; how much of what M2 is saying and will be saying is true, and how much of it is defence-by-offense deflection from the increasing unearthing of side deals and colossal waste that spell kickbacks and upfront payments for unspecified favours riding on the NEP and cronyism incorporated.

Let both sides answer all the questions of all the rakyat. The rakyat have also not forgotten how a few exMiti officers end up printing money for no bloody reason than they have APs in a monopolised market.

Let it all come out. Then we will have that watershed in the governance of this country. Malaysia needs it. Otherwise history will repeat itself. Why? because the governance operating system has bugs.

Mahathir, if you're reading this, finish the last leg of your journey a statesman who can do what is right for the last time, not do what is politically correct to the detriment of this country.

Badawi, if you're reading this, finish the rest of your tenure by making governance clean, practices transparent and principles of integrity undefilable, without exception.

What's the point of being liked or even finishing the job when neither will mean anything if founded on what is wrong?

What this country needs the most is a full-blown catharsis.

TDM has got a lot of guts and "balls" to fight AAB..but no balls to come clean one the detentions..He was PM, Home minister and that happened under his watch.....Bad call Tun..zero points for talking cock.

Mahatir said he told LKS that LKS would not be arrested. "This Melayu tak Mudah Lupa" ?

LKS said he did not recall Mahathir said that. "Ini Cina Mudah Lupa"?

Which is which?

One thing for sure, both are polticians. So you guess.