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Are you surprised that Govt only allowed NST to ses OSA-declassified documents and not others?

No, you shouldn't!

Because NST is UMNO's mouthpiece. It is not even a Govt mouthpiece, since Govt comprises of other political parties and Star journalists should have equal access as NST.

There you have it. if you want to know the definition of NATIONAL INTEREST in Malaysia, it spells UMNO Interest.

Doesn't that sound like Govt run by single political parties in some parts of the world? China? North Korea ? Cuba? Vietnam?What Govt do you call that?

Why should all the other journalists of other papers be fuming? After all are they not willing contributors to all of the government's machinations? Reporting only what is safe and pretending like many things never happened until they see green light from the government. Even prostitutes have far better morals adn ethics than our journalists and newspaper editors. Indeed I should apologise to prostitutes for having compared them to our journalists and editors...maybe I should have compared them with the lawyers, ya!

Someone please tell me that the "man on the street" isn't going to fall for this BS. I mean c'mon, UNCLASSIFIED DOCS that are still CLASSIFIED to some? How can these leaders look themselves in the mirror? At least put in on a Govt website so we can look at the documents ourselves. I thought that's what UNCLASSIFIED meant

If Kalimullah and Brendan Pereira, both loyal Malaysian, worked in the Strait Times earlier in their career, does that mean that they could be sent by Singapore as spies?

Thus, they should not be allowed to access the correspondences and minutes of the meeting between the two nations’ leaders to write rebuttals to Tun Mahathir’s unfound criticisms? Both are senior executive of NST, a government mouthpiece.

If Star columnist, Joceline Tan who once worked for Singapore Strait Time were to write a rebuttal based on the same materials, can it be considered a breach by the penetrating and ill-intend Singapore (or Harry’s land)?

Heck, I once worked for Singapore CPF, a statutory board as an official; does that mean that I could be a Singapore spy now that I work in EPF or any Malaysia government agency, for that matter? But, they are tens of thousands Malaysians working or have worked in Singapore statutory board such as PSA, HDB,PUB,SGH, MOM etc.

Very weird logic indeed!

The idea of an ex Singapore CPF personnel working for EPF doesn't raise any suspicion for the simple fact that he or she does not handle sensitive/classified information of the government (unless of course its the big wigs themselves in question) - in reference to wander.

The issue here is why the NST (with 2 senior editors being ex-Straits Times officers) has classified information posted on NST's website a few hours earlier even before the official announcement of the declassification and then took it down quitely.

With contents that are almost the same, a suspicious mind will join the dots together.

are these facts as claimed or are they just hearsays repeated by enough bloggers, hence can be taken as facts....?

JEFF OOI says: You better ask Syed Hamid Albar.

Why cant anyone here eat the humble pie and admit that Mahathir has been checkmated?

I, for one, does not agree that the stupid bridge should be built in the first place when the money could be used to continue with subsidizing petrol and diesel or for use to better the quality of life in Malaysia. It does provoke thoughts of some people getting rich quickly with the project. However, if AAB govt's way of handling the declassifying and publication of the documents with only the NST having prior access to it, surely there must be something that cannot see the light of things....something to hide?

If the declassified documents cannot be accessed by the public in its entirety, wouldn't there be any chance that we might not get the whole actual story? Can then someone pick and chose only those sections that work in their favour and then publised that for the masses who has no way to verify its truth? Who then can verify whether the supposely declassied documents are true? NST????

Someone please help me to understand this.

"Doesn't that sound like Govt run by single political parties in some parts of the world? China? North Korea ? Cuba? Vietnam?What Govt do you call that?"

Democratic Govt. It was clowns like us that voted them in...the last election with a landslide mandate. We got what we wished for....but then, we were given a lot of false promises and we were gullible back then.

For those who are interested in the declassified documents. Check them out in
http://webevents.bernama.com/events/ms/index.php?type=b1

Complete Collection of Malaysia-Singapore Official Agreements and Correspondences below links:-

http://malaysia-today.net/reports/2006/07/malaysia-singapore-official-agreements.htm

From my information,the hidden agenda of building the bridge is for Johore Ports and the coastal areas to be more in economic value like Panama Canal. Tun is a far sighted leader.

irt cto's comment...:
far sight my ass! in my book, if one sees where the opportunities are but not the risks and feasibility associated with those opportunities, that's just not far sighted enough to be a good leader.
if we want things to go our way everytime, we just need to have stronger means & mights. do we want to be like israel who can do whatever with its neighbours and no one can do anything about it? perhaps not going as far as that, but surely we want to stopped being pushed around and/or screaming about that, perhaps we better get our acts together and drop the petty local chiefs(ketuanan) mentality and focus on the some real importnt stuffs instead of "oh you let saf planes fly over johore, you traitor...", "must make the malay labels bigger than the english ones...", "must get 4 deputy minister posts more than gerakan...", "i don't want that fooking old merz! i want the new one!", "dap went on a possession that started the 513 riot...", "oh, our minister had parties in sinkabor, harry lee must be his sugar daddy...", "men queue here... women queue here...". do we really believe we are far-sighted enough to have elected a far-sighted leader? har!

/// From my information,the hidden agenda of building the bridge is for Johore Ports and the coastal areas to be more in economic value like Panama Canal. Tun is a far sighted leader. ///

cto - thanks for the joke - it made my toes laughed.

The Panama Canal saves ships thousands of kilometres by not having to go all the way south round the tip of South America. Likewise, the Suez Canal also saves thousands of kilometres by not having to go round the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa.

But that is where the similarities end. For the proposed crooked bridge and demolishing the causeway, instead of shortening the voyage, ships will have a longer trip by going through the Johore Straits instead of South of singapore. Don't take my word for it - look at the map of Singapore. Better still, look at this link:

http://www.abcmalaysia.com/maps/johor_map.htm

A Great and Beloved Dear Leader indeed who is far sighted. The only leader who proposed a shipping lane which is actually longer. The only one who "progress" from making cars to making motor-cycles in justifying buying Augusta. (Honda, Suzuki, BWM, etc all went from motorcycles to cars, and not the other way round.) What's next if Dr M has his way? To buy a bicycle manufacturing company with lots of debts so as to synergise with Proton?

Far-sighted leader indeed!!! Far out!!!

If you look at the big picture, Dr. M is fighting for Malaysian right & dignity in the bridge issue. At the same time, economic benefits from bigger bridge, crooked or not will generate somehow that benefits Johorean laypeople or cronies depend how you look at it. Now it remain status quo by cancelling it, what do we get? Paying compensation for nothing, and "hidden" smearing agenda Dr.M intentionally or not by present AAB cronies. No wonder Dr.M call the present government "half past six", no guts to fight the Singaorean and all sing kick with AAB. They have stabbed him in the back, and they stabbed it good...

TheWrathOfGrapes, please don't laugh. There is already a Proton bicycle, and has been for some years now. Go and have a look in any Proton showroom!

WrathOfGrapes: "A Great and Beloved Dear Leader indeed who is far sighted. The only leader who proposed a shipping lane which is actually longer. The only one who "progress" from making cars to making motor-cycles in justifying buying Augusta. (Honda, Suzuki, BWM, etc all went from motorcycles to cars, and not the other way round.) What's next if Dr M has his way? To buy a bicycle manufacturing company with lots of debts so as to synergise with Proton?

Far-sighted leader indeed!!! Far out!!!"

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LOL. Agreed. Far sighted is what leaders of countries like Singapore, Korea, Taiwan and Finland are doing. Mahathir does not fit the bill.

mlkview: "you look at the big picture, Dr. M is fighting for Malaysian right & dignity in the bridge issue. At the same time, economic benefits from bigger bridge, crooked or not will generate somehow that benefits Johorean laypeople or cronies depend how you look at it."

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Oh please. Far from feeling dignified I feel embarassed by a crooked bridge.

If one of the proposals pan out - that the crooked bridge be built first terminating out in the middle of the Johor strait with the hope that Singapore will one day join up with it, I hope that bridge is named after Mahathir.

And as for generating economic benefit - yes we should stimulate economic activity but why not build/upgrade schools, hospitals, research facilities. These are more productive than a crooked bridge.

If you travel through the Panama Canal, there are a lot of economic and marintime activities, and not necessary for the big ships only! If we have higher level of thinking, the toes will not laugh nor there be far sighted ass because the brain is still in the head. If you think Tun is stupid, then hundreds of world leaders must be stupid to have had praised Tun for his leadership. Listen to Tun's speech of 1988- closing of the UMNO general assenmbly and you will know Tun's forward sightedness!

cto, yes agreed with you that there can and may have lots of activities. But if you build the crooked bridge for RM2 billion, most of the money will go to the consultants and contractors and other pockets.

Wouldn't it be far more effective to spend the RM2 billion to create economic activities directly. Say, create some marinas, board walks, water sports centre, underworld world, etc, etc.