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with next to no understanding of the intricacies of the issue, our pemuda hero is going around labelling kofi annan? real nice. bacul? haha... man, they do a good job of making themselves look like idiots. people are dying on both sides and they only choose to see one side of it. rice doesn't give a rat's ass what pemuda has to say, really. and you're absolutely spot on... the arabs are silent for a damn good reason. tell our pemuda hero that there makciks in our own kampungs who eat once in 2 days and drink dirty water. pemuda should probably try taking care of that first before tackling the middle east crisis. i mean, leave the fireworks to the big boys and stick to the pop-pops la. just a thought...

Jeff, I read, "Pemuda Umno chief Hishmauddin Hussein, the well-groomed son of the Onn family", and I could not read any more....then while waiting for Type Key to come up I re read thta part and saw the context in which you referred to Hishamuddin as being well groomed!

Honestly his genetics will not allow him to hide where it is he comes from. He may have been saved from the vagracies of the kampong life and streets and lanes..and he may have been saved from needing to be street smart. He could have refined the shine in Cambridge, and yet this idiot of a son surely must be an embarrassment to the good name of his father and grand-father. He brandishes the keris like the kampong hero he has never had a chance to encounter growing up and now he uses language his father would squirm in his grave. Total disappointment!

Why did the Hezbollah broke the ceasefire and kidnapped the Israelis soldier in the first place? To trigger a response from Israel of course. This is what the Hezbollah wanted, an aggressive response from the Israel and Israel is doing what any country at war will do. The fact which other Arab nations are silent are probably because they themselves are wishing that Israel will cause maximum damage to the Hezbollah which is known as the troublemaker. Which of course suits Pemuda Umno fine, coz they themselves are known to be the troublemaker.

An editorial on the Elaph online newspaper for Sunday, 16 July, appeared with this headline: “Iran’s New Alliance Ignited the Fire that’s Burning Lebanon.”

The following are excerpts from the article that underline the unease of several Arab commentators about the growing Iranian influence in the region.

“Hezbollah embarked on a military operation that ended with the killing and kidnapping of Israeli soldiers within Israel’s borders. It was an operation that could not have been justified at all; it was totally and completely against Lebanon’s interests. The Lebanese are extremely tired and weary, due to the wars that have been inflicted upon them. Consider the number of killed and wounded, and the terrible destruction that’s going on in Lebanon, and realize the gigantic nature of the tragedy of the Lebanese!

“The big question is: for whose advantage was that operation which started this war? In order to understand who benefits from the Hezbollah operation, we must consider the timing for the attack It is well-known that the Lebanese economy relies heavily on the tourist season as an essential part of the yearly income. Why did Hezbollah not wait until the summer season was over, to initiate their attack on Israel? What a lame excuse that Hezbollah gave for the goal of its operation, namely the liberation of their prisoners that were still being held in Israel! But those prisoners had been there in custody for years!

“In order to understand the timing of Hezbollah’s operation we should consider the words of King Abdallah II, of Jordan. He warned about the rise of a ‘Shi’ite Crescent’ that would extend from Iran to Hamas in Palestine, passing through Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon. His warning was in place as the current events have demonstrated. It is turning out to be much more than a ‘crescent.’ It has become a ‘deadly scorpion’ whose head is in Tehran, while its tail is in southern Lebanon, and in the south suburbs of Beirut. This dangerous situation can no longer be dealt with by the resort to vapid diplomatic declarations. Hezbollah’s foolish acts have rendered such a course totally ineffective.

“Let’s consider again the ‘timing’ of the operation. For whose advantage was it undertaken? We should not forget that Iran was under great international pressure due to its nuclear program. So, it continued to play for time and prolonged its diplomatic negotiations. At the same time, Iran pursued her plan to cause troubles all over the Middle East. It was Iran that prompted the action of Hezbollah in Israel. Thus, the leader of Hezbollah offered Lebanon and its people, as a sacrifice on the altar of Iranian interests. Hassan Nasrallah never bothered to inform the legitimate government of Lebanon, or the Arab governments, about his plans to initiate an attack on Israel. The real decision for Hezbollah’s action was taken in Tehran, and was accomplished through the help and cooperation of Syria.

“Iran and its allies thought that the ‘sacredness’ of the ‘Palestinian Cause’ and of the ‘Resistance Movement in Lebanon’ would immobilize the Arabs, and render them unable to unmask the true nature of Iran’s schemes in the region. Iran’s calculations failed due to Saudi Arabia’s warning about Tehran’s plan. Added to the Saudi position were the declarations of Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates that decried the actions of Hezbollah. As a result of their incursion into Israel, the destruction of Lebanon has begun. The Arab countries must construct a plan to face the Iranian strategy that seeks to dominate the Middle East. Iran must be stopped from executing its plan; this whole matter has taken on an existential nature!”

Thus far, the comments of an Arab editorialist on the deteriorating situation in the Middle East. His remarks centered on Iran’s role in igniting the fires that are burning Lebanon. He did not deal with the broader issues of the type of war that is being waged by the Islamists, not only in Lebanon and Israel, but all over the world.

Unfortunately, the general media took up the words of Jacques Chirac regarding the “disproportional” Israeli response to Hezbollah attacks, and began to repeat them ad nauseam. What they failed to emphasize was the radical changes that have taken place in the method of warfare as practiced by the Islamists, and the logical and necessary responses to such tactics.

The civilian casualties and the destruction of properties and infrastructure are extremely sad.But the muslim nations surrounding Israel and the mulims all over the world must understand that for Israel, it is a question of survival, the creation of Israel after world war 2, notwithstanding.Israel is a reality .It is in the interest of the world especially Arab nations and muslims to accept that fact, make peace with Israel and avoid unnecessary killings and destruction.Nobody benefits in the end except the arms suppliers.
Somewhere here there is a lesson India can learn from Israel.It is an internationally accepted truth that Pakistan, which has always been a terrorists training and manufacturing factory of immense proportions,
Afghanistan, Kashmir etc. Pakistan is doing to India exactly what Hesbullah is doing to Israel .India should take a leaf out of Israel's strategy to get rid of terrorists operating from Pakistan soil with Pakistan's blessings and support. Pakistan's protests of innocense is not worth a penny. Only India with no backbone, not proud as a nation could have tolerated Pakistan this long.The whole world is fighting terrorisom so what is India waiting for.More bombings as In Mumbai recently?
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I guess this is wayang only. Where is Hishamuddin Hussein on Sudan's crisis?

Recently Khairy already grab the headlines with the protest at US embassy... so Hishamuddin have to do something la... or else out of the picture later.

We have leaders in this country making comments and leading demonstrations with regards to the current conflict in the Middle East.
The point I am trying to point out here is do not put blame or put one as the aggressor. It takes both to clap.
The question I am puting forward is do the Arab countries, are they really keen in having peace around the region. All the years, what have the Arab countries initiated towards that peace process.
1977 Anwar Sadat made peace with Israel. Israel gave all the oil rich Sinai back. Till today, both nation are at peace.
At the Camp David under Clinton Administration, Israel offered Arafat 97% of West Bank and 3% of Israel land in exchange of peace, which Arafat rejected.
In year 2000 Israel pull out of Lebanon for peace until now.
Last year 2005, Israel pull out of Gaza to initate the roadmap to peace process. They left green houses for the palestinan as goodwill so that they can build something for themselves, but no, they destroyed them.

In all the years under Arafat, if the Palestinan are really serious in peace, by now they would created an economy for themselves rather than begging for financial aid.

All the millions of financial aid during Arafat, where have they gone? Arafat's wife!!

My question again, do they really want peace. Follow the example of Jordan and Egypt.

The plight of the Palestinians is the result of corrupt and greedy leaders who are only looking after their own interests. The European nations donated billions of Euros over the years which was plundered away by the leaders instead of building the infrastructure for the betterment of their people. Education could have been used as a tool to improve the lives of a new generation but instead of toting books the young are cleaning their AK-47's and brandishing their sling-shots. This is what you get when you have leaders bankrupt of ideas and only know the way of violence. You live by the sword and die by the sword. And the cycle continues, with each party backing themselves into a corner, leaving no option for retreat from the present course. It is a tragedy indeed...

PTR,

Your analysis is oversimplified. You taking away the most important equation-human emotion. Imagine losing your country to bunch of immigrants which made up significant number of israel's population. The European created the mess by creating Israel as a state, why shouldn't they bear the cost?

More than half of the world's problem are created by poor division of borders. The instability serves their interest.

I'd like to make a financial contribution to send Hishamuddin and Khairil on a one way ticket to the Lebanese border with Israel to fight with the Hizbollah's. I wonder if a Keris is enough to scare the living daylights of the IDF.

One question: I wonder if Pemuda UMNO will confront Rice about the situation in Iraq as well? While, most of the world have their sights at the Middle East conflict, it was confirm that there are 100 civilians killed a day in Iraq due to secretarian violence. I think there is a need to address this with Rice as well, no? Unless of course this is just another one of those publicity stunt?

ptr,

Wat nonsense you talking about? If Israel is taking Jordan and Egypt's land, you think they will keep quiet?

Study only a bit of history and make such comment? Little bit of info is always dangerous...

Jeff,

I beg to differ your opinion on "But when Malaysia is making the clarion calls to damn the UN, why are the Arab nations silent towards the Israeli aggression which led to the killing of hundreds of civilians in Lebanon?".

I personally believe that the Arabs are responding less to the situation for reasons that they do not want to aggrevate the war even further and from spreading to other Middle Eastern countries. And all this even before any concerted effort is being made to pacify both parties.

Now, I'm not trying to imply that Hizbollah's on the right path because for all I know they were the one who had started this problem.

Refer to website below on pledges made by Saudi Arabia for the rebuilding of Lebanon, which total to $2 Bil. This is just a start. The Rome meeting on Lebanon which will take place sometime this week will further address the issue with strong participation from the delegates of the Middle East. So watch out for that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/5214354.stm

To Zagato and Jeffdaman

Thank you for your comment.
I understand what you are trying to say, to put record straight, there is no Palestine state or Palestine people.
They were Arab nomads living around the area of Judea and Samaria and were Jordanian citizen.
In 1988 fearing an uprising the late King Hussein gave up claim over those areas and they became refugees staying in refugee camps.
In 1994 PLO was established by Arafat. The history of Israel goes way back.

And to you Jeffdaman, you have misunderstood my point.
Your comment is very vague.

More history lesson for you
1967, Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Jordan involved in a war with Israel. Know as the 6 day war. Started when Egypt blockade Israel shipping lines and military build up along the Israel borders and Syria guerilla raids into Israel. ( same thing happening today with daily launching of rockets into Israel.

Oct1973, Egypt with Syria surprise joint attack on Israel when they were celebrating a festive day, which is known as the Yom Kippur War. Israel cut off the entire Egyptain army which paved the way to a peaceful ending. At Camp David, first time any Arab country recognised the existence of Israel.

I suggest you know some facts or knowledge before you pen such vague comments.

sydput...

I like you idea of sending KJ and Hisham to Lebanon...but I tell you this...you want them to goto Lebanon....then you must send his supporters also..becos on their own..they are not jantan enough.

Observer: great analysis of the situation. On TV over here in Europe (that include BBC), the remarks pointed towards Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan basically are 'silently' siding Israel. Silently is because they are hoping Israel would 'clean' away all the trouble makers in the region for them.

Now that someone mentioned about European money. I am sure everyone know that Arafat's wife and daughter live in Paris even before he dies. That is no small money to live in that city and the kind of life style. Where does the money come from? The day after Araft dies, I saw on the news that he has 900 million USD in the bank(s) for his family. 900 millions USD (or euro who knows)... and then that was quickly covered up and I never read it or heard it again anywhere else. That old man perpectuated the sufferings of his own people, and they call him hero. Now wonder why the last election Hamas won?

Rice, good old Rice. This is the kind of power woman that I have seen and worked with too many in the US. Their sole interest is their own arse. She is the mouth piece of her crazy boss. We can look at it as a waste of good brain, OR perhaps god wishes us to see the eveil side of another human being?

So Iran is behind Hzbolla. US behind Israel. Who benefit from the sales of all the firearms? US, Russia, Iran, China (???)...

And Europe would be flooded with more refugees from the Moslim lands ....

I am happy to be old ...

I have been pondering over this word 'DEMOCRACY'... can anyone really explain to me what democracy is? OF course I am being sacastic.

US is telling the world to go 'democracy'. Regardless the tradition, cultures, people of the countries. I am not saying that what is happening in many countries is correct. But what is democracy to the US herself? Is locking up people in the famous jail a form of 'democracy'? Is kidnapping 'suspected terrorists' and fly them to unknown destinations, jail and questioning a new kind of 'democracy'? Is the kind of democracy in Malaysia is not good for Malaysia? Is allowing women more power mean democracy?

I think we distorted the picture of what democracy is. We seems to think what the US says is good. If you ever live in the US, you would see there are two laws. The law for the very rich, and the law for the very poor. If the US still cannot take care of her poor in the south (go to mississipi, go to New Orleans), then what good is democracy for the most 'powerful' nation on earth? OR if the Americans cannot keep the mad man cheated and became president, what good is democracy?

China is another country that we should watch out. The so called the next Powerfull nation on earth. Look especially their behaviour in Africa. My prediction is: there are going to be sad news ...

When power is given to the WRONG hand, there is no democracy even when it is in a democratic land. Just look at the grabbing of wealth of the rich from the poor. Is there any mercy? Is there any 'democratic' though of spreading wealth?

Just my random thoughts.