Good cops, good stories
The Police, due to the doings of the corrupt few among their ranks, have been receiving a lot of bad press lately.
If there's anyone who has good personal experience of meeting good cops doing good deeds unto them, please share with us. Screenshots will publish them prominently.
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The only instant in my more than 50 years of exisence is not complimentary, I was waved off by a police constable after being snared in a speed trap. His reason - 'member lah'-mistaken identity as I do not know him. Horrible experiences? yes, plenty including the all to frequent asking for belanja makan and hostility when filing police reports. Good experiences? Are you kidding? They behave like legalised thugs!
Posted by: madviruz
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June 2, 2006 07:53 AM
Good experience? So far I only have bad experience with the police.
"Macam mana nak tolong ni?"
"Bayar kat balai, RM300, bayar skarang RM100 aje."
Posted by: CountryLover
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June 2, 2006 08:10 AM
A 'trap' for you, Jeff?
Posted by: howsy
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June 2, 2006 08:11 AM
I have had many an experience with dumb, belligerent cops. On the same note I would like to add there are many other cops out there who display a high degree of integrity, professionalism & politeness in the course of their duties. Guess there are two sides to a coin in any profession.
By the way, is someone catching cold feet out there or are the winds of change blowing over?
Posted by: bnaipal
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June 2, 2006 08:15 AM
"A 'trap' for you, Jeff?"
Wow, what's there to investigate? Have 'they' approached you Jeff?
Posted by: Vedderian
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June 2, 2006 08:28 AM
Dunno bout you guys but aside from the small bad seeds (like for anything these days) I only have good things to say bout them. Yeah I know, I even have friends who say s*** things bout them. But then again, they don't really deal with the police many many times. Most of them just once or twice, so they can't really say for sure IMO.
Dunno bout you guys, but when I got booked I just say sori laaaaaa pakcikkk tak sedar la pulak, blablabla. Can even chat with the traffic police somemore. I mean like, these policemen are people too. And I wonder how many of these people who complain are themselves rude to begin with. I guess you need to go overseas to see how rude or impolite our people are by default (?).
But then again, I don't go to demonstrations, so I can't speak for those crowds who do lah.
Rather than posting pictures I'd love to see vids of these demonstrators getting the sh** by the policemen. Would love to see what really triggered the policemen, not how the policemen kicked those PAS/ADIL dudes.
Posted by: C-Fu
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June 2, 2006 08:41 AM
'Kuching Traffic Police Is My Best Friend' by Kenny Sia is a typical experience that the rakyat faced daily.
Posted by: ktak
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June 2, 2006 08:55 AM
Good cop and bad cop are two categories of the police force. Those who have experience with the police will come across some of them who are prepared to listen to reason whilst there are those who are there to seek 'makan'. Of course, those who have to pay must in the first place know that they have committed an offence and therefore they have to resort to this kind of action. However, in most cases, the offender will plead but it is up to the cop to let go or to issue a ticket. However, a deal can be struck in the process, pay RM300 at the station or RM100 on the spot, the choice is given to the offender. But, what is more horrible is that happening in the station, where exchanges can take place. Ask those who have seen what happened at the station, they share their experience, there is no hiding,the offender is asked to pay a certain sum, normally less than the amount stated, in some cases, the receipt received is less than the sum agreed to be compounded, and in some cases, no receipt is given and the offender is asked to go without fear that he/she will be prosecuted later. In fact, there are many 'good samaritans' out there to help to try to reduce the compound sum. Their role is understood, they are there to ' cari makan' Not only the police but in other enforcement offices in the city..... Part of the problem happens in not respecting the traffic rules. Look at the traffic light junctions all over the city and in most towns, one common phenomenon is disrespect of the traffic light. The biggest offenders are the motor-cycle riders, red light=green light. It is very dangerous for other road users. These riders just rolled on irrespective whether the traffic is red or not! The problem is lack of discipline and one obvious failure of the education system? or for that matter it brings to mind the similar situation in cities like Jakarta,Banjermasin, Surabaya etc. This kind of unruly behaviour rubs on the locals to follow this kind of behaviour and the respect for traffic rules breks down. The influx of of these illegal or other immigrants bring along their unruly behaviour.
On the other hand, there are stories of these illegals who have to keep in their pocket at least RM50 in case, they are stopped by the cops checking on their status. Some of them have kept some money inside the shoe sole but the cops still know how to extract the extras. This was related at building sites where in most cases they work as contruction workers while their spouses work part-time to clean houses and airing their discontent!
The question is how come we have slided to this extent. The cops are supposed to be friends of the people. This morning in the TV showing in China, the campaign is on where the one cop sings with a line like this: we are the sons of the people, call us if you need help in our rounds. I suppose, back home this kind of campaign can be implemented...not to forget, we have the Salleh system with cops wearing a badge of shaking hands.. can we have this inculcated.
Posted by: peterpan
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June 2, 2006 08:55 AM
i was once flagged down by a traffic police for an alleged traffic offence which i did not ocmmit as i am well aware of their operations and you know they are always there during peak hours. So what happened next was the usual "mau settle" offer thrown to me. I did not budge. I told him that i was very sure that i did no wrong and i was simple penalised for an offence i did not commit. I took down his badge number and told him to issue me the summons. This angered and he walked away. I was still waiting in the car for him to return with my summons. I got out from the car walk towards him and asked him what is taking him so long to issue one simple summon and he shouted at me, "pergi! Pergi! You mau kena saman ah"? So i drove off knowing that I had won a battle but still not the war which our dear PM started which to me is heading no where apart from lining up the pockets of the guy who got the contract to supply the "Saya Anti-Rasuah" badges. Whoever thought of this badges must hv made some great deal of money.
ANother was during CNY when the mini-terrorists would come out in full force to terrorise the peaceful neighbourhood with their fire-crackers and "smart" bombs that send sounds of thunder echoing and you can hear them from miles apart. I once called my local pondok police to get some men over to investigate and apprehend these ppl. The friednly policeman over the phone just said, "Encik, tak apalah, "setahun sekali". Shit. We have 3 major festivals here and not forgetting some jerks would just suka2 let off one or two without any reason just for the heck of it. SO i took to the streets, hunt down these idiots myself and called the police again and told him i am at "so and so location" and told them to get their fat arse there asap. IT took them just 5mins to reach and the culprit duly given a tongue lashing. SO here we have a case of lazy cops despite the ban of fire-crackers. They just couldnt care less.
I too hv met friendly cops and efficient ones but those are a rare breed. I guess if you are a good cop you cant blend in with your colleagues.
Go watch THE SHIELD. We shoud get a rough idea.
Posted by: groo
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June 2, 2006 09:19 AM
"But then again, they don't really deal with the police many many times. Most of them just once or twice, so they can't really say for sure IMO"
So the police are not really that bad after you have deal with them many times, or is it you are already get use to their corrupt operating procedure that you thing it's a norm then it's alright?
"And I wonder how many of these people who complain are themselves rude to begin with. I guess you need to go overseas to see how rude or impolite our people are by default (?)"
How many people exactly being rude when it comes to deal with the almighty Police Officer. They are so almighty, that most of the people out there just humbly "tuan" "tuan".
When you speak of overseas, I suppose you are saying places like UK, US. The police officer drive you back to the police station after found out you're drunk and let you blow the alcohol device (pardon me, don't what's the name). My friend just manage to get away because it was indicated one level below the dangerous level. Gave my friend coffee and hot towel. Drove him back to his car for God 's sake.
"Rather than posting pictures I'd love to see vids of these demonstrators getting the sh** by the policemen. Would love to see what really triggered the policemen, not how the policemen kicked those PAS/ADIL dudes."
I think the demonstrator killed one of the police officer' mum with his book triggering the policemen to beat and kick him in group...deliberately. *Shake head*
Posted by: beefstew
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June 2, 2006 09:20 AM
I wonder how many of you remember the traffic police nicknamed "Tok Misai" (back in late 70's and early 80's) who was so diligent in controlling the traffic at the junction of Jln Brickfields (now Jln Tun Sambantan) and the Railway Station. Drivers will honk their horns showing two-thumbs up for his enthusiasm, diligence and efficiency in directing the traffic so we can get to office in time.
Those days the jam along that stretch of road starting from OldKlang Rd/Bangsar was horrendous.
Posted by: concern-lah
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June 2, 2006 10:58 AM
I remember ! VCR's and cameras were not so affordable in those days ... but I remember that he was featured in one of the newspapers at that time - and also, he almost started a trend - there were quite a few who looked so cool on their shiny motorbikes.
Posted by: Michael Lee
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June 2, 2006 11:35 AM
There was a time many years ago when Dil Akhbar Khan was (if I'm not mistaken) chief of KL police. Following a nasty article in the Star that claimed traffic policemen made traffic jams worse in KL, he withdrew all KL traffic policemen for a day. The result was a traffic disaster, opening everyone's eyes of the critical role of the police in regulating KL traffic and the Star was compelled to issue a public apology to the KL police.
The problem is that it is so easy to take the services of the police for granted as one sees some of their basic but more critical roles day in and day out. How many of us feel palpable relief when a traffic policeman arrives at his post to direct traffic when the need arises. If anything, this and other basic burdens have increased over the years with police beginning such duties earlier, for longer and their numbers also barely coping with the relatively low recruitment levels vs the growing population!
Jeff, the above is something which everyone here sees and should be grateful for, but I and many at Bandar Kinrara specifically have good reason to be thankful to the police who, when the township was still growing and prone to break-ins, were quite happy to come over when called by people seeing suspicious spectres in the night, staying for some time, scalling roofs and scouring backyard areas for potential intruders. They later opened a 'Pondok Police' in the area at the community's request.
We can't possibly be the only beneficiaries of the above. The majority of Malaysians must have similar afinity to the police for these reasons, which makes me wonder yet again - how many of the -ve commenters here are really Malaysian? Some of the above comments make it seem as if corrupt traffic policemen are the only policemen they interact with - a bunch of Singaporean speed-demons ka?
Malaysians would be more appreciative of our police, those who are not, should be!
Posted by: A M Ubaidah S
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June 2, 2006 12:43 PM
Guys,
What about those rough and rude outriders who use to shout from their police car and bike by saying "tepi, tepi, tepi" in the busy street and pushing you to the side as if their father owned the road. Is that included?
Posted by: RichardPlywood
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June 2, 2006 02:39 PM
traffic policeman?
duties..wait at traffic light for you to commit offence rather than direct jammed traffic flow...
in the airport pick up or drop off lane... so busy chasing away small cars, but close one eye when it is a big cars
. or close both eyes??
Posted by: art chan
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June 2, 2006 03:39 PM
Sharing good cops good stories? None, not to be rude to the good ones, but seriously none, sorry, but I do have a nasty experience with police.
Back to when I was 21 (I have witnesses who were taken along with me), I was in this video gaming store in Sungei Wang - jalan jalan as I dont waste money on these arcade games - way too expensive to me.
Out of my expectation, some police showed up in the gaming area and "tangkap" some people. Being unlucky and without proper understanding of my rights, I was one of them. The police even threathen to show the handcuff when my fren refused to follow. My fren challenged back, and you know what the police said? He said: "If that's the case, I will charge you with obstruction of police works" Honestly speaking, that police is a chinese (i'm also chinese), who has a thug look.
Without any choice left, we followed them back to the lokap, that was my first and only experience being in a policestation as a detainee. It SUCKS! and I wonder whether I can sue the government for leaving a bad psychological effect on me, ofcoz for monies. We were even asked to go on the stupid lokap polis truck.... and it was raining that day, the truck had those iron barred net stuff.... argh.. luckily my fren said we would just drive our car as our ics were with the polis.. It was so embarrasing, publics were watching at us when the police were "Escorting" us...
We were brought to the police station as dummies for witnessing process. You know, those who stand beside the real criminal for the victim to point out. DUMB....... I felt so dumb when the victim (a government officer who was beaten by illegal vcd sellers). showed up, I purposely showed him the irritated face when he came in front of my face. Yes, there's no those one side invisible mirrors, victim face to face to the criminals. URGH......
UH.... after that, we were allowed to go without appreciation token... like a RM50 angpao... yeah money again...
Now think of it, where was my human rights at that time?
Posted by: whling
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June 2, 2006 04:42 PM
Traffic control?
Sometimes they ask you to use the emergency lane when the jam is so terrible, so that those who wanted to turn left can take the lane and skip the jam.
But those are white shirts.
The blue shirts are more rude, I think. Maybe, they used to deal with dangerous criminals, when dealing with innocent citizen, they also use the same method.
Posted by: streetz
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June 2, 2006 04:49 PM
For those who said traffic police are doing a good job directing traffic in KL, I hope they are talking from real experience. But I'll have to dispute, at least on the route that I travel everyday to work & back home, i.e. Cheras, Jln Pudu, Jln Imbi, Jln Sultan Ismail, Jln Raja Laut. I tell you, I can swear to God that if there are policemen overriding the traffic light, I spent more time on the road, if there is none & I only need to follow the traffic light, I spend less time on the road. It is not 1 time, not 2, not 3, not 20 times but every time, please don't quarrel with me, I've proven to myself, my above observation is true, I've travelled that route for more than 10 years!
Posted by: aPanaMa
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June 2, 2006 05:52 PM
Couple of years back in front of Sogo,i saw a Mit Pajero of Traffic Police was heading to Banguanan Sultan Samad from Chow Kit.
When they slowly passed the traffic light in front of Sogo,the light just turned red.Guess what,the cop's pajero suddently made a quick reverse and blocked bunch of bikes which were ready to sprint after the Pajero passed.
These are most probably the regular illegal racers along Raja Laut and Jalan TAR area.As usual,before they sprint,they make irritating engine noise and smoke.
Because everything was so suddent,they got a big shock and tried to make a U turn to escape.
There were so many bikes and the road was not wide enough for all of them.One of them fell and he immediately rode on the back seat of another bike,he left his bike behind.
At this moment,one traffic cop quickly picked up the bike and tried to chase them behind.The posture that this cop rode the bike was so amazing,like the illegal racing that we usually get to see on TV.
But i don't know whether they manage to catch any racer or not at the end.However,i was impressive and they deserved my credits for doing such a good job to get rid irritating illegal racing.
Posted by: teh-o
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June 2, 2006 09:21 PM
The problem of being a policemen is, that no one really says anything if they're doing their job well, because there's really nothing to report. On the other hand, if they screw up, we immediately see the effects of it.
I for one would love to see the policemen be more ruthless in executing their duties. Our own culture is to poo poo what the law says and we have very little regard for the law. Think of the number of traffic infringements we make in a day, the times we sped along the motorway, of not giving the right of way to others even though its theirs. The law is rigid because it has to be, and the policemen should be rigid in enforcing it as well.
I've had my fair share of interaction with the police, and they've been for the most part positive. Nowadays, I've been stuck behind traffic whenever a VIP goes through, but hey, they're important people out for important occasions. And its not any different anywhere else in the world, in fact, in the US and in the UK they close roads for blocks on end, yet we grumble just because the policemen stopped us for 5 minutes.
As for the incident in front of the KLCC, those people made a choice to not disperse, and later to resist arrest. They know the choice they made, they should be well aware of the consequences. You can't have it both ways, you can't expect to carry out an illegal assembly and resist arrest, and expect to get away scott free.
Wouldn't it be nice to have the police act similarly in crime areas such as Petaling Street, Jln TAR and Bkt Bintang??
Posted by: alfabob
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June 4, 2006 11:56 AM
Your support of police brutality in breaking up the latest illegal assembly in front of KLCC is apalling to say the least, alfabob. I sure hope you get brutalized some day.
Didn't you see the photos? It was both barbaric and a total use of overwhelming force to keep kicking that poor man on the floor by up to FIVE FRU thugs.
Whatever happened to arrest?
Posted by: riversandlakes
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June 7, 2006 02:56 AM