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Back to basic,.Integrity superscede all else. The notion of not supporting an opposition's motion without weighing its merit is plain DUMB.

Just call for a GE now! Forget abt polling and getting opinions. They darn sure know that the rakyat is pissed off. Meddling into nitty gritty issue like bow ties but yet deliberate on Jasin one eye jack case. Next week better table how their wives should dress up in public and private functions.

I believe MPs owe a duty to their electorates, Parliament and country, which is distinct and separate from their duties to the party.

If they have to vote against to their conscience and toe the line, aren't they just a "Puppet"?

Not wonder UMNO is a "U Must Not Object" party, Pak Lah want all Barisan Nasional MPs to be "Yes-man" and toe his line even though it have to go against their conscience.

We were not told when we were voting for BN candidates in the last GE that we were only voting for a rubbet stamp. Pak Lah, if you need reminder that we are still the boss, I am sure many will be obliged to do so in the next GE.

After reading what AAB said in the Star today, i am deeply sorry for Malaysia and cry deep in me.

What is the difference between former TDM and current AAB on the issue in democracy?, NIL... However, I respect more TDM than this hypocrite AAB. He is the worse of all... now I am really angry with TDM hand picked this weak and incompetent leader to suceed him..

A political party is formed by people with common aims. If the elected representatives have a difference of opinion on a particular issue, it should be sorted out at the party level before all the members vote in the Parliment. Washing dirty linen in public, to the encore of trouble makers will only aggravate the discord amongst the party members.
And if Malaysian citizens can think up of a 'better' alternative than BN - than it must be really 'creative' thinking! You don't want Malaysia to be led by DAP or Parti Keadilan of 'Dan Bui' or 'Brokeback' fame?

Everyday the rakyat are seeing how weak Badawi's leadership skills are. When the rakyat gave a clear mandate to him in the last GE on his cemerlang, ter bilang, gemilang tag line, its increaingly clear he can't walk the talk! When the rakyat looked to him to give a decisive ruling it seems like our captain can only make a decison to facilitate easier management of the ship rather ie(U Must Not Object) rather than steer the ship to clearer water and seems like we will be haeding to a rocky grounding instead!!!

Democracy in name, dictatorship in nature. This is the way to show the world our first world mentality.

Jim Morrison: This is the end, my friend, the end.

bnaipal,
//You don't want Malaysia to be led by DAP or Parti Keadilan of 'Dan Bui' or 'Brokeback' fame?//

Other than your homophobia, can you please explain why these parties would not be a better alternative than BN? I mean, this is leaving aside the fact that the sodomy trial was heavily unfair. Do try to give a credible answer.

It does look like cracks are appearing in AAB's administration. I am sure many will wonder if it is being orchestrated by someone... no prizes for guessing who.

bnaipal,

"You don't want Malaysia to be led by DAP or Parti Keadilan of 'Dan Bui' or 'Brokeback' fame?"

I agree with you .... in part. BUt for the benefit of all Malaysians, I believe handling a 90+% mandate is detrimental to all!!! This is what you get. BN (or UMNO in this case) treats the parliament like their own toilet! Put shit in it whenever they want. This Jasin MP is typical of Malaysian 3rd world mentality! ZERO integrity and respect for law. He is setting up a negative example as a people's leader.

My ideal scenario should be Opposition - 49%, BN - 51%. THAT will bring down their arrogance and let them treat the country with some respect. So, VOTE for anyone else BUT BN. Teach them a lesson of respect and responsibility.

"I believe the Jasin MP is not wrong in what he did. We are called upon every day for help by our constituents. I also do that as an MP," said Nazri.

This is the core issue and problem and is not dissimilar to the “under declaring” in the import of cars with APs. Influential and "big shots" have been throwing their weights around for so long already and getting away with it.

I also believe only the UMNO MPs do such things to help their constituents and without even an appointment. It would be interesting if someone can "prove" that this erring importer is from Jasin and not his business associates.

Can anyone imagine an opposition MP or for the matter the BN component MPs barging their way to help someone? I don't think they can even pass the guard house without an appointment.

BN reps vote according to conscience? must be joking..in the first place do they have any conscience at all..?

AAB has a chance to do right..but blew it.

Voting an oppositon motion that is good for the nation will only move us forward.

What if the opposition move amotion to have harsher penalty form criminals..and just becos it is from the oppostion BN does not support?

if theis is their stand..the next BN candidate will not be my wakil raakyat.

Always thought that AAB is unsuccessful in fulfilling all his big slogans because of the people around him. But by rejecting the voting by conscience shows how big a hypocrite he is. First class parliament??

Shudder to think will there be any good candidate to lead us? Shahrir! – blown it by trying to retract his resignation.

Members of Parliament vote according to their consciences? Of course bloody not.

They should vote based on what their constituents want, not what their inner voices tell them. Maybe if their consciences were in line with the electorate, sure. But MPs, take note: you got there because we VOTED for you.

Don't make us vote for someone else.

Reposted from the previous thread, it is more relevant here.
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Are you all naive or what?

It is a known fact since the formation of the Federation (1n 1963, NOT 1957 contrary to G propaganda), that the MOST important election in the Federation is NOT the General Election to Parliament, but the election to the leadership of UMNO.

Because the President and Deputy AUTOMATICALLY becomes the PM and DPM.

So of course UMNO and the election to UMNO leadership is MORE important than Parliament.

Duh...

Once you understand that, you will understand why certain decisions are made.

At the moment, The PM's ability to control his Party and people is MORE important than the integrity of Parliament.

It is called survival.

P/s. Remember Joe Rakyat did NOT vote Pak Lah into the PMship, his own people and Party did. So where do you think his fight is?

i don't know where are we haeding..er..when is the next GE?

Aren't we missing the point here altogether, people? The leader of the BBC,Datuk Shahrir Samad has resigned on grounds which I wholly respect and admire. BUT that should not be the issue that everyone is getting hot under the collar about! The mainly unsavoury and "innocent" action by the MP for Jasin, Datuk Mohd Said Yusof in asking for a government enforcement agency to "close one eye" in the execution of their duties is the core issue here and we should NOT be diverted from this at all! Further, by using the excuse that it was a bumiputra entrepreneur, was the said MP for Jasin suggesting to the Customs Department that bumiputra businesses should be allowed greater leeway than non-bumiputra businesses when enforcing government regulations? If that was so, this Barisan MP should be censured for out-right racism? As though special priviledges in other areas under the NEP wasn't enough! Now he wants even special dispensation in the interpretation of and execution of the law and regulations as well? Is this the mind-set of a bumiputra MP? Shame on you!

He even has the gall and the stupidity to give the example of a motorist stopped by the Police for speeding at 150 kph and hoping to get away by approaching somebody with a "Please Sir!" Mr. MP for Jasin, if you can condone some mad and dangerous maniac on the highway, then you do not deserve to be nominated as MP at all, let alone stand for election because you are too stupid and dangerous to represent anyone in Parliament! For the MP's actions at the Melaka Customs Department, I think a report should be made to the ACA to investigate whether there was a conflict of interest as well as an abuse of his position in requesting the Customs to "close one eye!"

Ladies & Gentlemen, I thought the Parliamentary Democracy system of our country is styled after the Westminster Model of some First World countries like UK, Australia and New Zealand. In the Westminster Model, there are provisions and occasions for the MPs to vote according to their conscience in certain issues, especially on moral or contentious issues which is not deemed “life and death” policy matter (e.g. vote of no confidence) of the Government of the Day.

For the PM who had apparently demanded and pressed for total loyalty or blind loyalty from all BN MP on all things raised or debated in our Parliament, well, I think is a clear sign of the First Word Infrastructure, Third World Mentality practices that incidentally the PM is frown of.

Walk the talk, PM.. Walk the talk. “Bikin serupa cakap…(right?)”… We are still waiting and waiting…

To me these are all wrong,

1) Jasin MP asking Custom dept to close an eye

2) When the issue was brought up by LKS, no BN MPs except Shahrir, supported it

3) Jasin MP admitted it then ask "what is the big deal"

4) The big mouth Nazri statement

5) Then the AAB

Any honest and decent people will not do these, but again, there is no such thing as honest politicians in this country. I always imagine if such things happened in Taiwan or Korea, there will be big fight in the parliament.

Folks,

I give up...AAB will defenitely go down the history as the most lame duck PM there are in the history of this country. Cemerlang,Terbilang....Temberang...full of sh***t

It is really sad to hear such words from the current PM.

Judging from the past and current events, BN will not get my vote in the future election.

come on guys, you should not run away from devil you vote, you share all the blame..., all of you is just an ordinary coward malaysia who afraid to change

luckily, i never vote for bn, i rather vote for monkey than bn

Oh my God, what had we done to ourselves, fellow Malaysian?

It seems like next time if I get into any trouble, a MP is more useful then a lawyer!!!

limeuu above says important things.

govt should be made less important than people if only to avoid the ransoming of interests to the limitation of how the decks of power are stacked in this country.

how, need to think a bit more.

I am maybe controversial, but change must be controlled. In this case, what if suddently it is said.. okeh! No big deal, in the name of transparency, you can support any motion regardless of the proposer (read: opposition). Surely, it seems to be the correct for many citizen, but it is politically suicide! Too many risk will arise for this, party will be jeopardize which in the end, a good intention is badly rewarded.

For a case study, look no further than Soviet Union - remember, in the name of deomcracy many drastic changes are implemented, and you can see the country was in shamble for many years.

I really, truly hope that Datuk Shahrir is disciplined, censured and punished by BN and/or UMNO.

NOT becuase he did anything wrong.

But I hope he is punished, and then resigns from his Member of Parliament post, which was, after all, won on a BN ticket.

Then, in the by-elections, stand again as an Independant against the BN candidate which will likely stand too.

I think that will be a good opportunity for the rakyat to voice their opinion about the actions of BN with respect to what Shahrir did. A referendum of sorts, though only the electorate in a small constituency get to have their say.

Only thing which bothers me - is there a time bar on someone who resigns from his seat which blocks the person from standing again immediately?

If not, I think Shahrir will win hands down in the event of such a by-election, and his presence in The Dewan Rakyat as an Independant MP will serve as a strong reminder to the govt and BN that the right of each MP to listen to his conscience and act in the best interest of the people should be way above the dictates of the party and the coalition.

Hi syedhs,

The change if any here is very "controlled". If parliament don't have any conscience then we’re worse than Soviet Union era, in which at least with conscience a nation can bounce back from the ashes. I see some aspects of Tuah and Jebat episode here and as with history Tuah was a hero and Jebat is a hero.

Our beloved citizens are at it again - throwing mud at Badawi, BN, UMNO & whosoever is in sight. Can't u guys give Badawi a chance to get the house in order?
Food 4 thought - has blogging been initiated on the wrong note in Malaysia?
Don't we love, God love with an orgasmic passion to criticise our leaders. Maybe a Lew Kuan Yew style of monarchy will benefit us eh? Or should renegade politicians be treated a la 'James Gomez'?
Hmmmm...Wonder what happened to 'Watson' & 'Holmes'?

syedhs,
if you can't find any good book about USSR history, then learn to use google and find the REAL FACTS how communism USSR collapse. As usual, blaming others is easier than facts finding.

To everybody time and in case your "can't find" the facts : USSR collapse because the body economy went bankrupt by internal corruptions. And Soviet union is just inherit the consequences of the bankruptcy!

The MPs are ELECTED not APPOINTED. In that respect they should remember that it is their responsibility to REPRESENT those who elected them. If they only toe the party line so that they will be chosen for future elections, it will serve them right if the electorate show them the door. If their party does not choose them, they can stand as an independent, and if elected, it shows clearly the will of the people. It has been done before - our ex chairman of the BCC for one.

Bnaipal:

AAB has had numerous chances to "do the right thing" but each time, he failed miserably. He is the biggest hypocrite in UMNO for preaching transparency, accountability and integrity but what he has done is to demonstrate that he allows the rape of the country to continue unabated - APs continue to be issued to cronies, projects get awarded even before the designs are completed, project costs spiral upwards out of control, etc etc. The icing on the cake must be the continued linkages between his relatives and Khazanah-controlled companies - something that AAB has studiously avoided answering over the past year.

We gave AAB the 92 pct mandate, and all he has done over the past 24 months is to prove to us that he is either incompetent, ignorant, not in control, or part of the rotten system that pillages the economy. Not signs that instil respect from the rakyat.

Don't knock Lee Kuan Yew. Singapore with no natural resources except its people is AAA rated with reserves of around US$200 billion and no debt. We have substantial natural resources but we have reserves of US$70 billion with an equivalent amount of debt. Why do you think there is penis-envy of Singapore ?

Unfortunately Pak Lah has not exactly shone where the issues of the BN Whip, allowing BN MPs to vote according to their conscience and also the BBC meeting to re-elect Shahrir as BBC chairman are concerned.

I hope it is not the result of listening to a certain advisor, or advisors, who have came up with the previous duds.

Folk

Pak Lah is reaffirming UMNO's political INSECURITY.

Further confirmation of UMNO's desire to strangle hold power at any cost even by not allowing UMNO MPs to speak with up based on their conscience.

You should know who to vote for in the next election. Note you still need another Malay-based political party to lead into the next Government, whether you like it or not. Forget about DAP winning Govt, that's another 25 generations in the future.

I had a rude shock when both Datuk Najib and Pak Lah endosed the position taken by UMNO back banchers(BBC) of not supporting their leader Dato'Sharir Samad in parliament recently.Sharir's resignation as the leader of BBC was therefore wellcomed by them as being appropriate and consistent with the requriments of party discipline as adopted by UMNO.

UMNO requires that their members of parliament not to support any motion proposed by the opposition in Parliament regradless of whether such motion has any substance or in the best interest of the public or not.This seems to imply that Sharir had erred and probably had violeted UMNO rule for supporting the proposal by the opposition leader Mr.Lim kit Siang.

In the first instance as elected members of parliament all of them owed their positions to the members of the public at large .Therefore it is their primary duty to protect the best interest of the general public and uphold the basic tenents of the rule of law by ensuring that they are enforced without fear or favour.

As a voter I still remember that in campanging for a sustantial majority in the Parliament ,Pak Lah and his band of followers had argued during the last public election that there was no need for a strong opposition in the country as the were already more than enough debates and checks and balances within UMNO ,the National Front and at the Cabinet level to ensure that ther would not be any abuse of power in the government.This particulr case , on the contrary, had eloquently demonstrated that we must have a strong opposition,otherwise the law enforcement officers would be coerced to close one eye to some and both eyes to others in carriying out their responsibilities in order that vested interest would be protected.

What is required is that members of parliament must uphold the constitution and the law of the country as they are the very people who are directly involved in enacting them.In doing so ,as representatives of the people they must embrace the basic values and principles of a civil society.

The above "rule"as adopted by UMNO as part of its party discipline has turned the parliament into an arena where various triad gangs consisting members from the ruling parties and the opposition parties shout and abuse each other.

We must appreciate that there is substantial difference between a "gang" and a "team".A "gang" conspires whilst a "team" inspiries.It is for this reason that there are many conspiracies in UMNO as their values and disciplines are constructed on the wrong footing.These are certainly contrary to those that are championed by the promoters of ISLAM HADARI lead by Pak Lah.

By this token we must maintain that there is no place for any member of parliament,who have been coercing or corrupting law enforcement officials to close "one eye" or "both eyes" in the course of their duty to continue to hold to their chairs,neither should we accept rules of blood brothood as adopted by triads be allowed to be embraced by any political parties in this country.

We should only accept rules that are based on sound democratic principles that would defend and promote the best interest of the people and the nation.

Triad rules and Islam Hadari are certainly poles apart.