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You can't stop people to be suspicious of the use of the savings from the cutback of fuel subsidies simply because there is no concrete plan now to tell the public on the improvement of the public transportation.

Fuel price increase already in effect and plebian are really suffering. On the other hand reading the interview by New Straits Times on 12 March 2006 with Datuk Kaled Nordin, Entrepreneur and Co-operatives Develepment Minister, looks like it will take ages before plebian can smell the improved transportation system.

Why don't reduce the subsidy only the plan is completed and finalised and disclosed to the public.

Here, you increase fuel now, hurt people, on the other hand still the normal toking. We are immnune with the normal excuse that "we will look into it", or "we will carry out a study, waiting reports", "we will carry inquiry committee" blah blah blah. And after a while the issue will die of and of course with the help of media. Fed up and sick lah:(

So increase the fuel only when the plan is ready to be implemented and people can use public transport effectively.

The Barisan National Government headed by Abdullah Badawi controls the price of oil in this country. IT was they who caused the increase of petrol by 30 cents recently. It was also they who siad that the government subsidy saved of RM4.4 billion will be used to serve the community.

Now the Deputy Prime minister assures us that the saving will be put into a trust fund to be managed for the betterment of the community. But what causes me to want to puke is that he assures us that a Cabinet Committee headed by the Prime Minister will be vested with the responsibility to ensure the savings is used to enhance public transport facilities.

Now is there not a conflict of interest there. The same crooks who cased the increase in the petrol price to give the government the savings being vested with the responsibility to spend the savings in what they consider to be the best interest of the community. Why cannot this responsibility be vested with completely independent parties? If the government is really serious about this that is what they should have done in the first place.

Sorry Najib, I your assurance of the PM heading this cabinet committee only causes me to puke! I want to tell in your face you and your cabinet committee are not fit to look after this fund.

And honestly how is this fund going to help improve public transport by increasing busses on the road? Hey, when did the government start operating bus services? Isn't that always been a private sector enterprise which for a very long time did well for itself without any assistance from the government? Why now, do these enterprises need help from the government? Well, I know long before the bus companies in the Klang Valley merged, they were all owned and very profitably run by Chinese owned companies....i mean Malaysian Chinese of course!....And they did it on their own!!....What has happened now, that the whole country pays for higher petrol prices so that the government can channel subsidies saved to a handful of bus operators? Surely they are not Malaysian Chinese operators anymore!!! But then again now since the Malay population also is equally squeezed so that favoured UMNOputras can profit from this, maybe now they will open their eyes and see for themselves what is happening and what has been happeneing. You see when the Chinese pockets run dry I guess any pocket will do as long as favoured UMNOputras can benefit from it.

Sorry Jeff, for making this last bit seem like a racist comment...but I would rather say it like it is as it was Najib who opened the door to me to show me how the subsidy was to be used.

Truly, the man-hours lost on the road to work & back and for any other purpose like, entertainment, food, etc is staggering. If properly quantified, would far exceed the 4.4bil saved. Thus it would be beneficial to the nation if the public gets some relief from the daily grind on the roads. So let us wait and see if this announced plan to improve public transport becomes a reality.

Has the Govt considered to revamp the airport taxi system? Forcing taxis to travel empty for half the journey, is that NOT totally wasteful... Wasteful in terms of fuel, and also the fact that the passenger got to pay for BOTH journeys!!! WE have the best airport in the world, and also the most blatant airport touts, badly maintained budget and mewah taxis.. susmariosep!

And Jeff, I still prefer the more "eye friendly" screenshots of old.....

Jeff:

Now I am worried. When the government denies something, it probably means that they are going to do it anyway. It took them so long to come up with this denial, it must be true, but they are now finding ways to get "around" the issue.

They could stop Bakun, they could give MAS away to Air Asia, they could channel the AP proceeds into the Treasury, they could stop the losses at First Silicon, etc etc, but they choose to tax the public. No matter what sort of spin they put on this fiasco, the rakyat is going to remember this.

Najib has a poor choice of words. He shouldn't lambast as lies the suspicion articulated by the rakyat that the hike will be used to bailout MAS. After all, too much muddy water has flowed under the bridge too many times for the rakyat not to be suspicious about how the umno-led govt has operated to serve agendas not made transparent to the very peoples who have to continue subsidizing through taxes, hikes and denialisms.

If anything, it shows a weak mind/character too ready to put the blame elsewhere. Such as on the rakyat.

He should have exercised more wisdom, if at all possible, to analyse why the rakyat thought the way they did, and then calmly explain with more convincing details how the proposed trust fund was to be operated. In doing so, he should also explain how improving the public transportation system in urban areas can serve the interests of motorists in less urban areas.

Finally, he should come out to explain why no monorail was ever built to serve the citizens of Malaysia living in high-density Cheras, Kepong, Puchong and Old Klang Road, but the powerites were instead overly fastidious in building it for other areas you-already-know-what, et.al.

And, for all, Badawi etc. DO read this blog site carefully. Except it appears they don't seem to know how to look a gift horse in the mouth. Or pretend not to.

Only if the minibuses are re-assigned to each and individual LRT/Monorail station as feeders, and limit them for being roaming around the whole city, then the mass flow of human being can be smoothed and organized.

Set LRT/MTR/Monorail/Tren as main transport pillar and backbone, and busses/taxies/minibus be just feeder, will ease traffic congestions, saving fuels, protecting the environment from air pollutions. Eg. Meet OKT at LRT daily.

There should go for Penang new traffic system. Pak Lah should allocate LRT for Penang on his 9MP releases. Trishaws are not only available at Port Swettenham in Georgetown, should also have trishaws services at Teluk Pahang LRT station to Butterfly Farms too.

couldn't agree more.

Most of the public transportations are disjoint.

For example,

1) Putra LRT could only find its nearest link with STAR LRT at Masjid Jamed

2) KTM Kommuter and Putra LRT could only have link at KL Sentral, with KL Monorail station near the Sentral building.

Selangor area has even less public transportation, making the citizen living there, forced to drive to work.

I've heard that people say PJ people won't take public transportat, even there's one.

I'm doubtful of that, and I'm sure if there's one, a good one, people will take, no matter what. (Who would love to be stuck in the jam + paying the toll?)

oh perhaps while taking the slooow public tranportation that kills the productivity

the public should start reading!

while opening the eyes widely thinking nonsense in pubilc transport - time to make use of the time, make reading a habit!

To me, this is a blessing in disguise, actually. See us Malaysians have become pak turut for a long long time now. This has shown the govt that when you push the rakyat for so long, the rakyat will just say up yours :D

To "say" this is the rakyat's fault, rakyat should change, and not the govt, it's like saying you voted us, so STFU and don't blame us.

I'm just waiting for RMK9 or belanjawan or whatever. Then will the real game begins hehe.

with all the lies in the past, ask anyone on the street..Would they believe anything from the govt about price increase on petrol, tolls. utilities?

None

Well done rakyat (for the moment). Internet and the demonstrations to a big part have forced the government not to take things for granted. Your electricity bill would have increased by now if not soon. Still, the government machinery to gather how the rakyat think the fund should be used is rather puzzling. The government already know what is lacking whether it’s transportation, health etc. It’s more like a delay tactic as there’s really no master plan in the first place so I guess rakyat’s anger needs to be soothed quickly. 100 days countdown has started ….. for the mind is weak but it can be reset next Friday afternoon. Maybe RMK9 will also be more rakyat friendly versus certain individuals gaining if there’s a bigger turnout. Who knows?

this is an article circulating on the net:

Harga minyak sepanjang zaman..
(dalam masa 16 tahun - sejak 1990)

sebelum 90 - RM 0.89
tahun 1990 - RM 1.10 (kenaikan RM 0.21)
01/10/2000 - RM 1.20 (kenaikan RM 0.10)
20/10/2001 - RM 1.30 (kenaikan RM 0.10)
01/05/2002 - RM 1.32 (kenaikan RM 0.02)
31/10/2002 - RM 1.33 (kenaikan RM 0.01)
01/03/2003 - RM 1.35 (kenaikan RM 0.02)
01/05/2004 - RM 1.37 (kenaikan RM 0.02)
01/10/2004 - RM 1.42 (kenaikan RM 0.05)
05/05/2005 - RM 1.52 (kenaikan RM 0.10)
31/07/2005 - RM 1..62 (kenaikan RM 0.10)
28/02/2006 - RM 1.92 (kenaikan RM 0.30)

Nota : (ayat2 standard)

1. “Kenaikan minyak masih rendah berbanding mana2 pun negara ASEAN.”
2. “Kerajaan akan pastikan kenaikan tidak membebankan”
3. “Kerajaan tidak mampu lagi menampung subsidi.”
4. “Kerajaan memberi jaminan harga runcit petroleum tidak akan dinaikkan lagi pada TAHUN INI….”

Saudara,

Pertama sekali abang Perdana Menteri kita ia itu Ibrahim bin Badawi menerusi syarikatnya SkyChef menjadi supplier makanan kepada syarikat penerbangan MAS yang sekarang mengalami kerugian RM900 juta untuk sembilan bulan pertama 2005. Abang PM kita jual sebotol air mineral kepada MAS dengan harga RM30 setiap botol. Kenapa kita hairan MAS rugi ?

Menteri Besar terengganu Idris Jusoh telah mengadakan lumba kapal layar Monsoon Cup yang menelan duit rakyat sebanyak RM300 Juta.

Duit ini di bayar kepada seorang taukeh bernama Patrick Lim dan kekawannya termasuk Khairy Jamaludin menantu Perdana Menteri. Perlumbaan kapal layar tak sampai lima hari makan duit rakyat RM300 Juta. Sudah tentu duit RM300 Juta itu ditelan oleh orang yang sungguh bertuah dapat kontrak RM300 Juta itu.

Untuk menutup kehilangan duit sebesar ini sekarang sabsidi minyak di potong dan harga minyak nail 30 sen satu liter.

Telekom Malaysia pula rugi lebih RM700 Juta duit rakyat sebab terpaksa bayar ganti rugi kepada syarikat telekom German ia itu Deutsche Telekom. Terpaksa bayar ganti rugi RM700 Juta sebab Telekom Malaysia tak tahu buat kontrak.

Nak tutup rugi ini pula kerajaan potong sabsidi minyak.

Sekarang lebih murah naik kapalterbang Air Asia pergi balik dari Kuala Lumpur ke Kuala Terengganu. Tambang pergi balik Air Asia dari Kuala Lumpur ke Kuala Terengganu tak sampai RM300 bagi tiga orang sekeluarga.

Air Asia diurus oleh orang yang tidak rasuah dan yang tahu buat bisnes tanpa menyusahkan rakyat.

Sekarang dengan harga minyak yang sudah naik, belanja minyak sahaja nak pergi balik dari Kuala Lumpur ke Alor Setar sudah naik hingga RM220 (kereta Proton Waja). Bayar tol pula lebih RM120. Belanja makan dan minum (nasi campur dan teh kosong) bagi sekeluarga enam orang tambah lagi RM40. Ini bermaksud jumlah belanja minyak, tol dan makan minum pergi balik dari Kuala Lumpur ke Alor Setar hampir RM400.

Negeri lain bukan macam negara kita. Walaupun harga minyak di Thailand lebih mahal daripada harga minyak di Malaysia tapi di Thailand tak ada bayar tol.

Dari Bukit Kayu Hitam ke Bangkok jauhnya lebih 1,100 batu (bukan kilometer) naik lebuhraya enam lorong tanpa bayar TOL (bukan empat lorong macam Lebuhraya Utara Selatan kita).

Di Thailand tak ada rasuah AP. Harga kereta Honda Civic 1.5 di Thailand tak sampai RM40,000. Lebih murah daripada harga kereta Perodua Kelisa 1.0 di Malaysia. Inilah kelebihannya di Thailand - tak ada AP di sana.

Di Malaysia pula ada AP. Sebenarnya harga AP yang perlu di bayar kepada Kerajaan (MITI) tak sampai RM250 sahaja. Tapi AP boleh di jual sehingga RM40,000 sekeping kepada Dato Dato yang kaya yang di kenal sebagai “AP King”. Rasuah AP ini telah berlanjutan selama lebih 30 tahun. Akhir kata rakyat Malaysia yang terpaksa tanggung rasuah AP ini.

Oleh yang demikian kereta Honda Civic 1.5 yang dijual dengan harga RM40,000 di Thailand naik harga sehingga RM110,000 di Malaysia. Rakyat Malaysia rugi. Kerajaan pun hilang wang. Bila kerajaan tak cukup wang - maka potonglah subsidi minyak. Maka naik lah harga minyak 30 sen satu liter.

Malaysia Boleh!!!!

The petrol price hike demonstrates the total breakdown of the functioning of government machinary. You see, Pak Lah looks weary and tired while Najib start to give wrong advice. Our Dr Goh of Penang smiles motionlessly while Samy Vellu keeps shouting that no toll hike.Who is the boss here ?

Pak Lah should ask him sidekicks to stop talking. He should study this event throughoutly and address to public. All the kinghorses and kingmen will not able to save him.

Just forget about bird flu or other major crisis, surely the government will not able to react proactivelyand coherently ?

Hi, Tony, if you're reading this, can and would your company try to manage a no frills efficient land transport systems also pls?

I think the current public transport system is only useful and efficient when one is not rushing and during raya-raya seasons when city dwellers went back to kampung. Then only the LRTs are not sardine-packed nor passengers worry about being late to destinations.

Tony! you're da man.

I feel that Najib is telling the truth after all.

The govt. has some remaining funds, *this* funds would be used to help the local GLC.

Now, the real problem is the RMk-9. I understand that govt does not have enough funds to drive this.

Plenty of local bumi companies desperately rely on this fund to have 'some' decent income. I observed that thie time they were more involved in the planing than ever, this is good news at last.

However, I dont feel good where some of these companies would benefit from the taxes burderned by the rakyat.

Now increased by 30c . Najib said last year the total increase was 45c . 1.92 minus .30 = 1.62 ; 1.62 minus .45 = 1.17 . Where was the petrol ever below 1.20 for these past years . So Najib, you have lied and have been caught with your pants down . And you want us to believe you now . Or is it that you don't know how to do simple maths . You are a shame to be the DPM . Go and change your life style . I've checked and other than not eating, not going anywhere and moving back with my family to my parents house, there is no way I can change my life where there is no style like yours . They already f**ked me up from working here and now want to preach to me about lifestyle .

The 30 sen hike in fuel price has caused a furore. Why not? The BN government can claim that the fuel price is the cheapest in this part of the world. This is the same excuse being lamented each time a hike takes place. It is a question of management of energy cost. Isn't Malaysia an exporter of oil? If we are not then, the argument will hold water. Otherwise, it will spill as we see now. The people cannot be happy because a price hike has a mulitiplier effect on the cost of living. Look at the cost for salary-earning family especially those at the lower level, making ends meet will become very difficult. These people, the workers, the small people working from hand to mouth will have to meet the rising cost of schoolbus fare for their children, the transport fares to get to work and what have you!

As a oil exporting country, Malaysia can augment and balance the so-called subsidy that the BN government would want us believe. Yes, the rise in oil prices will mean the country will have more revenue to balance the account and in fact, we are told that Petronas has immense profit! Where are the profits channeled to? Must it always givce Joe Public to bear the brunt? No point putting up the billboards to explain the amount of subsidy that the country is bearing for increase in fuel cost. Look around you will see the amount of wastage going on each day, meaning mismanagement of resources!
Part of these are siphoned through corrupt practices. In fact,the profits generated by Petronas will be more than sufficient to complement and supplement the necessitiy to increase fuel price! Here again, who has the account of Petronas?
The problem we are facing in this country is the 'blackbox' management, transparency will only come about when it is being dugged at. Once exposed, exucese and spins get to work, but it is too late. The people are not that stupid to fall for this kind of explanations.

Grr..
Like I always comments on anything about public transportation..

YOU MINISTERS TRY TAKING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ONE DAY.
And FEEL for yourself...

Don't make ignorant comments..

OKT should not even try taking LRT. Try KTM...
OR
even the buses in KL.

Bah..

Yes, all ministers and wakil rakyat must take the public transport for a month to work. Then from your own experience, come back and feedback into the transportation master plan. Now that will be sincerity in your part. Yes to Tony also that he can contribute in the plan, from the air transportation linking both the train and bus routes.
Having said this, we still need Pak Lah. Yes. As the supreme commander and elected leader, he's influenced by selfish individuals including his close ones. Now the rakyat's voice has become his reality check and we must continue to balance against powerful individuals at play. Rakyat Malaysia is maturing politically and we are not the Opposition's pawns but neither are we your gullible lambs. We are the ones that decide who our Leader will be !!

MAS itself in announcing the 3Q2005 results says it needs a "govt bailout" of RM2billion. Whether this sum comes out of the RM4.4billion oil subsidy savings, or from another Govt budget allocation, it's ONE AND THE SAME, the money is from the tax-payers' money. Our rakyat's lament is that PEtronas made RM35.5billion for FY ended March 205, which was 50% more than the preceding year. With just this profits increase -- AFTER-TAX-- whatever world fuel price rise in the period under review, if Petronas had flowed back just a portion for the benefit of the citizenry -- hey, oil is a national resource, we the people surely deserve some benefits, NO? -- there should be NO NEED FOR ANY PRICE INCREASE IN PUMP PRICES.
I've indeed argued in my blog last june/July following another price rise that in fact, there is a case for local pump prices to GO SOUTH (down-lah!) every time there is a world price increase.DA RATIONALE -- we export more than we import petroleum. Furthermore, our exports are "sweeter", and hence command a "premium" price.
BVoth ways we win, and these idiots keep perpetuating the "myth" otherwise.
Anyweay Malaysians like to complain, and complain, yet come the GE, the voters put the cross against the Dacing.Are the general populace suffering MASOCVHISM, or wat? And that's arhetorical Q!

And jeff, your "sympathetic" ear to the DPM is misplaced -- he knows what's saying -- from the moral high ground of power and arogance -- "Yes, you guys gave us 90% mandate during GE2004, so why are you komplening?
"CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE-lah!" -- instead of going to Monaco for your annual vacation, stay back in the Cameron Highlands.

Me? I jest adjounr to my computer lab and post some "stupidf" webmessages like what the PM had ascribed to -- "spreading lies". They can't stomch the truth when the oil runs dry through "futures" sales under the previous regime -- how about "Blame in on the weather"?:) Evaporation -lah!:(

This government has lied so often that anything they say now resemble any form of credibality. The problem is they are an ardent believer of the maxim that if you continue to lie long enough, people will start to belive those lies. Unfortunately, in this case, the more lies they utter, the deeper they get into that 6-foot deep hole. We don't have to go far. What happened to the promises made in their last election manifesto?

Malaysian petrol the cheapest in this region? As always when u compare price u SHOULD NOT take the exchange rate into account because "dollar for dollar" the standard of living in developed contries are the same. In that respect, we have a HUGE increase in petrol price here and now a liter cost NZ$1.53 and yours is near to RM2.00! If u look at the average income in NZ it is about $1,400 a month and in Malaysia an average worker get RM1,400/mt. Go figure!

cyleow, i totally agree with you. Keep on saying "we're still the cheapest in the region", that is crap ! Makes me wonder if they know jack about currency conversion and economics.

just be prepared for more criminal activities. when ppl cant earn to feed their family, it can turn them into desperados.

And now, you have built enough road and toll and selling enough cars and issue enough APs and reap much money and created much burden to the economy of the country, you are looking to build MRT, LRT, buses??? Why is this not planned onset???

You built the no-passenger Abdullah Hukom station instead of Mid-valley!
Who design the stupid ticket system, want us to by 2 tickets for Star and Putra?
You built the low productivity airport so far for us to pay enough toll, or taxi fare or Airport Express?!
You delayed the development of double rail project and caused the economy few years behind!!!

Go fix puduraya problem!!!

You asked us to change our lifestyle? Stop spending unnecessarily???

The rakyat's money is wasted on all your lousy planning and inefficient transport system!!!

I can still remember there was a news came out before that our respected DPM loves to eat nasi lemak everyday without fail.
To change lifestyle,maybe DPM can advice people to eat RM1.50 economical nasi lemak with sambal,bilis and kacang with timun or economical malay fried that costs RM1.50 for their breakfast,lunch,dinner or maybe supper.
Instead of Wantan noodle for breakfast which costs RM3.50.No economical mixed rice that costs RM4 and Not Bak Kut Teh costs RM8 for dinner.
Hence,you may be save from foods to pay for petrol.

Yes to cyleow & Ante5K, I wonder why the govt never mention prices of imported passengers cars in M'sia are among the highest in the region.

Okay okay, the govt do have a book to put in whatever largest roti canai in the country...and I think there are actually some children that doesn't get to eat in some parts in Africa.

Don't know why, nowadays, when ever i watch the news and I see our PM, DPM, the fat AP lady and Mr Samy Tol, my fingers automatically switch to other channel. Got tired of hearing all those lies and the look of hypocracy.

I used to wait for Lim Keng Yeik, but if the 3G issue is being policised and taken advantage too, I might as well watch CNN for the rest of the news.

Too tired and bored listening to all those blatang lies. Teaching us how to live in this kind of crisis. They are not in our shoes, how would they know. For all we know, they have never paid for their petrol cost ever since they sat on their cool executive chairs.

Lagi mau ajar ke, cakap tak serupa bikin. What a government and we all have to live with it and swallow all those nonsense.

Keep it up BN

I reckon it does not make sense at all, if the government really want to help Rakyat, they should not increase fuel price. As claimed by the government, RM4.4Bil will be used to improve transportation services, so my questions are as below:
1) Is the RM4.4Bil enough to improve transportation service throughout Malaysia?
2)Will the improvement focuses on city areas only, or does it includes rural areas?
3)Since they said want to help rakyat by improving the transportation, why don't continue to subsidy the fuel as this can help all rakyat throughout Malaysia?
I reckon transportation services can be improve when there are proper planning thorughout a period of time which I reckon the government should look seriously on this.

For me, No point to increase fuel price in order to help rakyat, but in fact without fuel hike, they are already helping so much.. common sense..get me here?

hinzelmann...

After reading you post, I also feel like shouting 'Malaysia Boleh!'

But of I shout here I will sure kena taroh... So I shout at my balcony la... he he he.

Najib said kerajaan janji no more naik harga petrol tahun ini. So watch out 1 Jan 2007 kerajaan boleh naik harga!

If Pak Lah is so concern to increase 30sen to raise RM4.4B to improve transport system why can't he increase in stages of 10sen first. You don't need to spend RM4.4B immediately to improve transport system. Even better Pak Lah should allocate 9MP budget for public transport improvement. After we see there are benefit we don't mind the increase but not 30sen.

Who are you fooling Pak Lah??????

The Draconian years have come at last,
I'm tired of living,
Got trouble pooping,
Gas prices are rising,
My dick aint trying,
Wife's got trouble sleepin,
Jams and floods are a everyday thing,
Even my kids are refusing to sing,
When the ice cream man calls a ring ding,
Rojak is up says Mamak Maidin,
Chappati to follow suit says Mr.Singh
Thosai? I wouldnt even dare dream
There goes my chutney with the coconut cream
Is this life worth living?
So said yes" the manifesto King!
But wait ! I've heard those words before"
In my head ,it rings and rings.
The baby's a cryin! I should be leaving
I shall Feed and protect you" said i to the young thing
To break that promise ,is the EVIL of all things"
The DRACONIAN years have come at last,
The DRACONIAN years can kiss my ASS !

no need to wait till 01/01/2007. if the petrolium price hit USD70 per barrel, u will get a "increment"...

for those who complaint about the car price, u can always get a "BASIC-CAR (bicycle)". bolehland's aunty, or so-called iron-lady has declared that the car price wont be fall even those WTO is entered and AP is always be there to make sure the rich / her gangs always rich and get richer.

4.4bil has been saved from here. "Mana Ada Sistem" and "kereta-bodoh" so co-incident need funding. DPM has also declared the $$$ that saved is not for this purpose but public "transport" system. meaning to build more highways and tolls? or build another SMART tunnel for the ppl of shah alam after the kota damansara retention pond has been vanished?!

I've put up a challenge to all member of the cabinet to come to kuching and take a look at the buses here. Maybe they can see the much differences that KL has as compare to Kuching. Maybe part of the RM 4.4bil can be use here.