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3G cross-talk

Late Friday, immediately after the result of the 3G bid was announced, a tycoon called a telco guy: "Shall we talk now?"

The telco guy replied "No, and good luck to you."

He allowed the conversation to pass through the speaker phone.

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let's me guess...Vincent Tan and Morten Lundal?

sonic: no prize.

Who was behind Indah Water and KL Monorail before it was 'sold'? Ooops ..forgot to add that sold with profit!

Honestly,

As at the moment, there is truly not enough demand for 3G in the market.

Not even here in Japan... even Vodafone KK is having trouble converting/upgrading its own customers to 3G.

So DiGi could well be better off at the moment, however, creativity must come in now to generate more revenue (value your postpaid customers, I'm still having 1 line active despite I've left the country... cmon!)

3G is not a winner at the moment.Too few users etc. Digi should wait for them to come begging to them to bail them out. How much did the 2 pay for the 3G licence?

Looking at the current gahmen policy, somebody needs miracle to gather funds for their 3G license for the stale market.

I'm wondering how's government's plan to push for malaysians to switch to 3G services in 2010.

by the year 2010, all the GSM services will be close down!!!

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digi knows this chap pretty well from previous experience.

3G in Malaysia is a still born. The service is dead before even it launches. Who the heck has the money to use that service? Especially in these days of "30sen price increases"?

Digi should just keep its money or worse, use it to buy another 3G license in Timbuktu.

you guys don't laugh so fast. later the gov buy back the licenses from these "unlucky" entrepreneurs at a higher price. than you know.
you think these people can get to where they are by being allowed by the gov to lose money kah?

Isk... u got the point!!! this is always happened at bolehland...

Did I read wrongly or what in today's news that the latest 2 licences cost rm0. Just a 50mil bank guarantee that they will roll out the services.

No wonder 'poor' Digi didnt stand a chance!

The telco guy replied "No, and good luck to you."
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wahsey... straight into his face! plus on speakerphone? hmm...

*devillish grin*

respect for the "telco guy", you have my salute! :)

lol..

is this real conversation or what?

Well,

It was a wise choice but the telco guy must not forget that if a newbie wants to succeed, he can. In this industry, you can get almost any support to set up greenfielder operations from the key vendors. they can and will do everything for you, as long as you have the money to pay. Alternatively, some vendor even provide financing!

I hope something good turns up for Digi out of this!!!!


Malaysia should not act too fast on 3G but should wait for developments on TD-SCDMA which is China's homegrown 3G standard to materialize.

In the study of all 3G systems, I find that only China's TD-SCDMA makes the most sense.

The remaining 3G system falter in 2 great flaws. The first is the pairing of spectrum for both uplink and downlink. For example, when you are alloted a channel, you automatically get an RF frequency for uplink (from your phone to basestation) and ANOTHER RF frequency for downlink (from basestation to your phone). This means that the RF spectrum is evenly divided into 2 portions, one for uplink and another one for downlink. In typical 3G applications such as internet browsing, users would be using downlink more heavily than uplink. Non TD-SCDMA standard cannot shift the unused uplink capacity to downlink because they must exist in pairs. This is wastage.

Another drawbacks on non-TD-SCDMA is the necessary spacing between uplink and downlink frequencies. I think at cell bands, uplink is 824 to 849 Mhz, and downlink is 869 to 894 MHz. The RF spectrum in between uplink and downlink is not used in order to provide the necessary isolation between trasmit and receive and therefore they are WASTED. That's nearly a third of the spectrum not used!

The only drawback that I see with China's TD-SCDMA is that it is still unproven. There could be a lot of bugs that still needs to be flushed out. But if Malaysia can wait, Malaysia should wait for TD-SCDMA to be deployed in China and see the outcome of that standard before adopting.


Me no wireless network engineer, and correct me if I'm wrong, but to upgrade from GSM to 3G is a somewhat natural thing (ie painless) compared to changing to a totally new network, like CDMA or it's newborn TD-SCDMA from what the name seems to point out.

You guys shouldn't writeoff 3G now. It is a new technology and of course not everyone needs it and 3G phones are still more costly than GSM phones. Other than that 3G is actually the same cost as GSM.

I can only speak of Maxis which I am using now. All my calls & surfing still cost the same. Of course some contents are more expensive but these are video one which I cannot use on GSM anyway.

When GSM was launched some ten years ago, many people also made similar comparison with the then more popular analog phones. But look at where we are now. Everyone is using digital (GSM/3G) services. My guess is one day the telcos may just shut off the GSM network and migrate everyone to 3G/4G/whatever. No, it won't be 2010 :-)

3G is cool la macha. my fren using 3G card, from maxis to online, damn fast, like broadband.

maxis 3G like broadband?! is not as fast as maxis / 3G promised... similar speed with EDGE so far as tested last month... guess maxis may need to optimize it network to make it faster...

cheers to all 3G users... u have changed ur lifestyle according to DPM...

"Me no wireless network engineer, and correct me if I'm wrong, but to upgrade from GSM to 3G is a somewhat natural thing (ie painless) compared to changing to a totally new network, like CDMA or it's newborn TD-SCDMA from what the name seems to point out."

TD-SCDMA is not a 3rd standard, well it started off as a 3rd standard but has since been absorbed into UMTS.

UMTS now offers 2 flavors, FDD-WCDMA (Europe 3G) or TDD-WCDMA (China or better known as TD-SCDMA).

TD-SCDMA offers the same services as Europe 3G, things like EDGE of HSDPA.

I have been using 3G in Australia for about 2 years. When I first bought the phone I was fasinated with the rich multimedia contents. However as time passes by I don't even use these features that 3G offers. I only use the phone to simply make phone calls. I strongly belive that 3G will fail and I think WIFI is a much cheaper alternative.

will 3G fail?! nobody can tell the future but only time... i strongly agreed with u... im using my phone 99.99% for conventional call and let the 0.01% as data usage... wifi is more feasible and cheap... i will spend my $$$ to get a wifi enable phone...

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