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I kind of disagree. I still believe people has to learn to live together. Therefore what is right for one person, is not necessary right for the other person.

Therefore asking the cartoonists, or the Danish nation to apologize is literally asking them to admit they are wrong. I don't think it is necessary right.

People would just have to accept there are different views on the samething in this world. IF we have to accept and tolerate their behaviours, they have to tolerate ours too.

Last night there was a very lengthy program on one of the Dutch TV channels, they invited cartoonists, political analysist, Islamic expertss, scholars, islamic extremist etc. Even among the moslims, they do not agree with the meaning of the cartoons. One of them (a city official) actually said she did not know what all the fuse is about. That the views of those grew up in the west might not necessary share the same of those in the middle east. That we should not generalize even when they are all moslims.

I think the world has seen enough distructions in certain part of the world, to really have to question WHY?

I understand that we have to come to closure. BUT the closure SHOULD not and CANNOT be to satisfy someone because they are using violent. If we do that, they would just continue pushing the button. Then when and where will there be any end to their quest?

We cannot allow this kind of behaviour in a global environment. Would anyone tolerate YOUR neighbour buring your house because you did not apologize to something that YOU believe in? I don't think so.

I know it is another topic. 10 years ago I was all for globalization. The more I see the gulf of differences, the more I am anti globalization. I don't think this world is ready to deal with the differences. The last 5,6 months I have seen enough destructions, killings, rapes, tortures all in the name of religion ...

Clark Braxton's "Google censored" article was referenced in this post.

There are paragraphs in there which previously on a different tack was deleted here. So how eh? Is pointing out to demons any different from presenting the demons themselves? I wonder!

Hi Jeff,
As you provided:
http://www.malaysiakini.com/frame/eNorLy/Xy0pNS8vPz9RLzs8FAC/fBeM=

You can see the cartoonists reactions under "More cartoonists react..." links

Oops!(http://www.malaysiakini.com/frame/eNorLy/Xy0pNS8vPz9RLzs8FAC/fBeM= )
It hsa the same links, it shoud be via Editor & Publisher under Many Cartoons Address Muslim Protests, But Few Depict Muhammad

I agree with Lynn Johnston, damage was done & now the west understand what issues are sensitive & what not. I believe that was what the muslims want - an apology.

The point is many people are furious/exited over a series cartoon. Either way, life must go on. Its best to channel the anger to something useful.

Immagine if the scenario was otherwise where people lighted a candles worldwide & offer flowers to the danish embasies while holding playcards depicting :

"we love everyone, we can forgive, Lets start over".

Do you think the Danes would be touched? Do you think the matter would be resolved smoothly & have given islam a better image in the process? Its simple as form over substance.

Time for closure.

Globolization? Easier for you to say it rather understand it.

You do something delibrately under the wrong pretext, can caused hurt to someone's feeling, and you still think you are right...

Yeah, keep hiding behind the 'freedom of speech' and maybe 'globalization'... keep provocking and keep intimidating will be the right way, huh?

The west does not owe any of us a living. To work with us or do business with us, well they do need to have some rudimentary understanding, appreciation, respect and, where necessary, tolerence even.

However, they have been brought up to believe that religion is a personal thing and just like what they have done with Christianity, in the public domain, they mock it. It cannot be hard to imagine they transposing that assumption on to Islam and their followers. A fatal mistake, I should add.

But who is responsible for this. Whose responsibility is it to ensure those who don't, know! Is it possible that the original creators and publishers did not know the extent of the insensitiveness of their actions? For that matter would I be right to say that given all that they had seen being done to the Jesus character, that Mohammed too was fair game?

Well, if they did not know before, they do do now. But once again whose responsibility is it to ensure that those who don't know, do know? Should it be essential for the world at large to be completely aware of all the customs, believes and sensitivities of everyone? Now that 3% of the population of Denmark is made up of Muslims is it required that the remaining 97% be completely made aware of the sensitivities of the Muslims?

In Malaysia I would imagine for most of us we take these sensitivites as a given. We are abble to communicate with one another and even jibe one another. Up to a point. Of course there are elements who test this space all teh time. The Moorthy case is one. Somehow, with the cartoons Moorthy has been forgotten already.

Dear Observer,
I hope that you have been observing well.
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I think it's not the issue of the 3%, when the publishers know damn well it is going to offend the muslim, in fact they were looking for it,they wanted to insult to see the response.Muslims are not stupid to vehemently protest if it was done in ignorance.

Even after the protests, they ( other papers) reprinted those images. They too claimed ignorance?

To Cindy,

It seems that you confuse yourself here.
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Shouldn't it be that if we want to live together, you'll avoid doing things (intentionally) that offends your neighbours.It doesn't mean the neighbours have to suffer in silence when your dog poo'd in their yard.I know the dog poo'd but you are responsible as the owner, same analogy as the Danish Govt.
I think it's only right the Govt assume responsibility regarding conduct of their citizens.
Afterall, does it cost much to say " yup, it was in bad taste,we are sorry"? Unless the Govt doesn't think it was in bad taste, then, all is lost.

This issue seems to be blowing out of proportion. Come on guys, caricatures are meant to be funny and entertaining. Take it easy. Afterall, they are just caricatures. I have been drawing caricature of world's renowned architects and published them on my website. So far, none of them or their advocates has ever protested against what I am doing now. Look at the funnier side of it, lar. Well, damage has been done, so what's next? Dawn of Civilisation as predicted by Samuel Huntington? I pray not.

Neurolept,

Try to live a life where everthing you are going to say, or do, or draw, or write with constant nagging thoughts if you are offending the Moslims, the Christians (there are many kinds), the Buddist, the homosexual, the Lesbians, the women, the blacks, the Hindus, the American Indians, the white men... To name just a few. You would understand how FINE all those lines are. And you would understand what it is like to be without 'freedomw'. And you would appreciate what FREEDOM is.

We are still argueing the samething ... what one writes/draws as interpreted by another person. Such as what I wrote. That was how I feel, how I think. BUT it turns out that is not what Neurolept interpreted. See how simple it is to step on someone's toes? Normally I would just ignore it, but since it is related to what we are discussion, THEREFORE I am taking the trouble to point out the impossible.

I think the Islam world is asking the rest of US, YES YOU TOO in Malaysia to do just that. Do you want to live that way? NOT me. I love my freedom. I do my part to be civil to others in this maddening place. In return I EXPECT others to do thier part to make this world livable. That means they have to learn to come up to speed to the level of mental 'interpretation' of meanings.

My last sentence does not mean that I am looking down on people. WE live in a world where 'distance' is upclose and literally become personal. Unfortunately certain of this world, there are people far lagging behind in education, openess, social structures etc. Therefore to one culture is nothing (which I believe that is what the cartoon to the west), to another is interpreted with the mind set perhaps 300 years behind! That is huge gap in interpretation of the same thing. Furthermore there are langauge differences ...